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Noles will 66 00:03:07,570 --> 00:03:05,750 be your guide please keep your lap bars 67 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:07,580 down in arms inside the ride Chris 68 00:03:12,970 --> 00:03:10,489 welcome back to the higher side so great 69 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:12,980 to be here looking forward to it always 70 00:03:17,710 --> 00:03:15,769 great to talk to you yes I agree man I'm 71 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:17,720 always pretty jazzed up to have you here 72 00:03:23,050 --> 00:03:20,510 on the heels of a new moon no less and I 73 00:03:25,420 --> 00:03:23,060 guess a pattern is kind of emerged where 74 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:25,430 we tend to do this around the transition 75 00:03:30,039 --> 00:03:27,440 times from one year to the next and I 76 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:30,049 like that you tend to give us a synchro 77 00:03:34,660 --> 00:03:32,090 mystic state-of-the-union so to speak 78 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:34,670 and I was listening to our last one and 79 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:37,660 you mentioned that 2017 was a very 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:40,400 symbolically loaded ritual year and I 81 00:03:44,140 --> 00:03:42,290 agree and people can go back to those 82 00:03:47,979 --> 00:03:44,150 two shows if they want to relive why 83 00:03:50,710 --> 00:03:47,989 that is but as for 2018 it's coming to a 84 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:50,720 close how do you feel the ritual potency 85 00:03:59,640 --> 00:03:55,690 has been this year not quite as intense 86 00:04:02,820 --> 00:03:59,650 now certainly interesting and more sort 87 00:04:07,770 --> 00:04:02,830 of a continuity of themes and ideas that 88 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:07,780 were raised first in 2017 I have no idea 89 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:10,750 why 2017 seemed to be such a focus point 90 00:04:18,570 --> 00:04:14,610 for this kind of activity but it was and 91 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:18,580 2018 certainly has had its fill maybe 92 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:22,720 not quite so much as the year prior but 93 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:24,310 of course you know as we speak there's 94 00:04:29,820 --> 00:04:27,490 this whole osiris-rex mission on been 95 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:29,830 new and I think I can't even say that 96 00:04:35,730 --> 00:04:32,830 without laughing it's so absurd you know 97 00:04:36,030 --> 00:04:35,740 it's like it's so audacious it cracks me 98 00:04:38,370 --> 00:04:36,040 up 99 00:04:42,470 --> 00:04:38,380 and then of course the ESA the European 100 00:04:45,170 --> 00:04:42,480 Space Agency has their key ops mission I 101 00:04:47,790 --> 00:04:45,180 won't trouble you with what that 102 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:47,800 ridiculous acronym stands for but it is 103 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:50,560 as ridiculous as osiris-rex and when 104 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:51,910 they come up with these names and then 105 00:04:58,260 --> 00:04:55,690 they try to shoehorn their program into 106 00:05:02,130 --> 00:04:58,270 that it's just it's really laughable but 107 00:05:05,070 --> 00:05:02,140 this whole thing with this asteroid or 108 00:05:10,110 --> 00:05:05,080 whatever it's supposed to be that was 109 00:05:11,790 --> 00:05:10,120 discovered on September 11 1999 sort of 110 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:11,800 a fact that a lot of people aren't you 111 00:05:16,470 --> 00:05:13,330 know aware of it's supposed to be 2 112 00:05:18,510 --> 00:05:16,480 billion kilometers out you know it's 113 00:05:20,250 --> 00:05:18,520 really not that large it really makes me 114 00:05:23,970 --> 00:05:20,260 wonder how they discovered this thing 115 00:05:25,860 --> 00:05:23,980 quote-unquote but you know it's NASA 116 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:25,870 it's the way things go and you know 117 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:29,260 we've seen enormous effort in the space 118 00:05:36,290 --> 00:05:32,080 realm we've seen the the Falcon 9 119 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:36,300 sending up the ashes of the Dead yeah I 120 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:39,010 mean it's just like you know on the 121 00:05:46,410 --> 00:05:42,910 heels of osiris-rex you know Lord of the 122 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:46,420 Dead NASA the afterworld one of two 123 00:05:52,890 --> 00:05:49,960 space born Egyptian gods the other being 124 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:52,900 raw it's just laughable it's all become 125 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:56,470 so blatant it's also in your face and I 126 00:06:01,950 --> 00:05:58,450 don't think anybody cares anymore I 127 00:06:04,550 --> 00:06:01,960 think that anybody who would care is 128 00:06:07,140 --> 00:06:04,560 either exhausted themselves or is in the 129 00:06:08,909 --> 00:06:07,150 midst of being silenced you know the way 130 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:08,919 they're doing this big crackdown on all 131 00:06:13,030 --> 00:06:09,650 media 132 00:06:15,999 --> 00:06:13,040 hmm what else can you do it's like you 133 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:16,009 know being a major OCD sufferer myself I 134 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:19,310 find being compulsive behavior obsessive 135 00:06:24,340 --> 00:06:21,050 compulsive behavior and others like very 136 00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:24,350 entertaining something I don't know why 137 00:06:28,810 --> 00:06:26,630 maybe because it's like I can spot the 138 00:06:30,670 --> 00:06:28,820 pattern that maybe fly over a lot of the 139 00:06:33,550 --> 00:06:30,680 people's heads but your NASA is just 140 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:33,560 never ends with them and I have my 141 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:35,810 little mottos on the secret side and 142 00:06:39,129 --> 00:06:37,610 then you know one that a lot of readers 143 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:39,139 will be familiar where there's spaces 144 00:06:44,409 --> 00:06:41,570 and alter yes because if you really look 145 00:06:48,340 --> 00:06:44,419 at NASA and their activities and now 146 00:06:50,409 --> 00:06:48,350 Elon Musk with SpaceX and you know you 147 00:06:50,969 --> 00:06:50,419 sort of have blue origin which is Jeff 148 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:50,979 Bezos 149 00:06:55,129 --> 00:06:53,630 little operations so to bring up the 150 00:06:58,369 --> 00:06:55,139 rear 151 00:07:01,309 --> 00:06:58,379 it's also you know the names and the 152 00:07:04,459 --> 00:07:01,319 dates and the destinations are also 153 00:07:06,830 --> 00:07:04,469 loaded and of course the ESA has the 154 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:06,840 Vega rocket which they're always sending 155 00:07:14,959 --> 00:07:09,930 up for missions hither and yon and of 156 00:07:17,119 --> 00:07:14,969 course Vega has turned out to be a vital 157 00:07:19,369 --> 00:07:17,129 and central importance to this whole 158 00:07:21,980 --> 00:07:19,379 ritual cycle that's emerging now I have 159 00:07:25,909 --> 00:07:21,990 no idea why I have no idea what it 160 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:25,919 actually stands for represents but 161 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:29,039 it's been very important for a very long 162 00:07:34,939 --> 00:07:31,110 time as I discovered when I took a look 163 00:07:36,469 --> 00:07:34,949 at the Great Seal you know I think a lot 164 00:07:38,659 --> 00:07:36,479 of people quibble and everyone will say 165 00:07:40,249 --> 00:07:38,669 oh I decoded it first and it means this 166 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:40,259 and blah blah blah but it's just like I 167 00:07:45,379 --> 00:07:43,680 think I showed with mathematical 168 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:45,389 accuracy when in fact it actually 169 00:07:51,559 --> 00:07:49,889 represents so there you go yes and we're 170 00:07:54,619 --> 00:07:51,569 definitely going to get into that but 171 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:54,629 from Apollo to Osiris it seems like 172 00:07:58,730 --> 00:07:56,280 NASA's up to the same thing they've 173 00:08:00,499 --> 00:07:58,740 always been up to and to give people a 174 00:08:03,260 --> 00:08:00,509 little more context from your blog you 175 00:08:05,719 --> 00:08:03,270 do talk about this asteroid be new it's 176 00:08:08,869 --> 00:08:05,729 discovery was announced on September 11 177 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:08,879 1999 again ritual dates with the context 178 00:08:12,709 --> 00:08:10,409 of things we've talked about before like 179 00:08:15,409 --> 00:08:12,719 the harvest festival ritual on NASA's 180 00:08:18,260 --> 00:08:15,419 birthday it's this connection between 181 00:08:20,570 --> 00:08:18,270 traumatic events and what NASA's doing I 182 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:20,580 don't get it but they code these dates 183 00:08:26,050 --> 00:08:23,370 for sure and it does kind of sound like 184 00:08:29,330 --> 00:08:26,060 cheap sci-fi to say that we're sending 185 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:29,340 osiris-rex to be new I mean what the 186 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:32,640 hell but you mentioned Cheops I'm not 187 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:33,990 sure exactly how to pronounce it but 188 00:08:39,350 --> 00:08:36,110 that is the Space Telescope yaps yaps 189 00:08:42,909 --> 00:08:39,360 yeah the key that CH is Greek it's a 190 00:08:46,069 --> 00:08:42,919 cuff found and that name actually does 191 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:46,079 go back to Egypt right the Great Pyramid 192 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:49,560 yeah right so the mission of Cheops is 193 00:08:54,350 --> 00:08:52,410 to find you super Earths and of course 194 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:54,360 you know why would they be interested in 195 00:08:58,740 --> 00:08:56,330 finding super Earths 196 00:09:00,880 --> 00:08:58,750 because they're interested in finding 197 00:09:04,990 --> 00:09:00,890 superhumans but these super Earths 198 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:05,000 I mean it's so transparent if you 199 00:09:09,210 --> 00:09:06,850 understand 200 00:09:11,150 --> 00:09:09,220 the language that's being spoken here 201 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:11,160 and you know like the fact that K ops 202 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:14,710 our key ops is the appellation for this 203 00:09:19,370 --> 00:09:17,470 mission is hilarious it cracks me up you 204 00:09:23,130 --> 00:09:19,380 know what does that have to do with a 205 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:23,140 planetary discovery mission well on the 206 00:09:27,060 --> 00:09:25,330 face of it and if you subscribe to you 207 00:09:28,530 --> 00:09:27,070 know the fake reality that mainstream 208 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:28,540 news puts forth and you know it doesn't 209 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:29,830 have anything to do with it but if you 210 00:09:33,980 --> 00:09:32,050 understand how these people really think 211 00:09:35,970 --> 00:09:33,990 and how they really work you know it has 212 00:09:37,500 --> 00:09:35,980 everything to do with it and again I 213 00:09:39,660 --> 00:09:37,510 mean it's like that's the Great Pyramid 214 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:39,670 so you know and what has always been so 215 00:09:46,170 --> 00:09:43,290 that the icon of all the mysteries of 216 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:46,180 Freemasonry or ancient astronaut theory 217 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:48,970 or theosophy up and down the line it's 218 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:51,610 been the Great Pyramid it's been a focus 219 00:09:58,020 --> 00:09:55,930 of fascination for millennia and it 220 00:10:00,300 --> 00:09:58,030 seems to have some extraordinary 221 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:00,310 significance to the space program which 222 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:02,800 doesn't make sense but there you go yeah 223 00:10:07,710 --> 00:10:05,440 definitely one of those strange but true 224 00:10:09,390 --> 00:10:07,720 things and I also wanted to ask you 225 00:10:12,090 --> 00:10:09,400 about a Mulla Mulla because it's being 226 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:12,100 talked about again and it all gets quite 227 00:10:15,630 --> 00:10:13,360 interesting because just about a year 228 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:15,640 ago now I had talked to both you and 229 00:10:19,830 --> 00:10:17,650 Gordon about it and just to refresh the 230 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:19,840 memories out there it is apparently the 231 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:22,210 first interstellar object to come in and 232 00:10:26,610 --> 00:10:24,610 then leave our solar system some will 233 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:26,620 tell you that it's sped up as it left 234 00:10:32,580 --> 00:10:29,740 and one of the big ideas circulating in 235 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:32,590 those shows was this idea that if the 236 00:10:39,090 --> 00:10:35,920 Harvest Festival sacrifice should we say 237 00:10:42,690 --> 00:10:39,100 was maybe a calling up so to speak of 238 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:42,700 the space gods a MooMoo up maybe was the 239 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:45,850 response so with that context we then 240 00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:48,310 have this recent Harvard study come out 241 00:10:52,170 --> 00:10:49,720 and make a bunch of headlines saying 242 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:52,180 yeah this actually could be a sign of 243 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:54,850 alien life and even more recently 244 00:11:00,660 --> 00:10:58,210 there's been news that now for more 245 00:11:03,330 --> 00:11:00,670 objects like it have been spotted and 246 00:11:06,210 --> 00:11:03,340 for an object that was named for a word 247 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:06,220 that translates to scout it's actually 248 00:11:10,830 --> 00:11:09,190 acting like one or so we're told I don't 249 00:11:14,610 --> 00:11:10,840 know what we can take at face value but 250 00:11:17,490 --> 00:11:14,620 this whole story is quite weird isn't it 251 00:11:19,530 --> 00:11:17,500 well the actual term is scout in advance 252 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:19,540 of an invasion well there you go that's 253 00:11:25,020 --> 00:11:22,480 the actual definition of it so and of 254 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:25,030 course the story that circulated as soon 255 00:11:30,210 --> 00:11:27,430 as that object was squatted was that it 256 00:11:32,970 --> 00:11:30,220 came from Vega in the constellation of 257 00:11:35,310 --> 00:11:32,980 Lyra and this was 258 00:11:37,050 --> 00:11:35,320 in the wake of you know the Harvest 259 00:11:38,009 --> 00:11:37,060 Festival in Las Vegas and all that kind 260 00:11:41,370 --> 00:11:38,019 of thing and of course I've been 261 00:11:44,910 --> 00:11:41,380 following all this since Chris Cornell's 262 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:44,920 death you know which really I guess kind 263 00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:47,290 of triggered the second wave of my 264 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:50,620 synchronistic work and it just never 265 00:11:58,100 --> 00:11:54,970 ends it's almost like every rock I pick 266 00:12:00,500 --> 00:11:58,110 up these days has some secret code 267 00:12:02,730 --> 00:12:00,510 engraved into the bottom of it and 268 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:02,740 they're speculating now that there are 269 00:12:09,210 --> 00:12:06,970 actually 66 interstellar objects in the 270 00:12:10,620 --> 00:12:09,220 far reaches of the solar system and you 271 00:12:12,990 --> 00:12:10,630 know it's like what an interesting 272 00:12:14,519 --> 00:12:13,000 number 66 and you know it's like these 273 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:14,529 numbers need to come up over and over 274 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:16,690 again they love the twin numbers they 275 00:12:21,509 --> 00:12:18,490 love the whole idea of twins the twin 276 00:12:23,670 --> 00:12:21,519 earth the twin suns the twin stars we 277 00:12:25,230 --> 00:12:23,680 have this what they call a Pappy 278 00:12:28,030 --> 00:12:25,240 it's like whether you're why they 279 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:28,040 drawing in all this 280 00:12:33,790 --> 00:12:30,690 mythology you know we had a Syrus Rex 281 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:33,800 landing and then we had this key ops 282 00:12:40,190 --> 00:12:36,690 satellite which just makes me laugh so 283 00:12:43,130 --> 00:12:40,200 intensely and then we have this ape app 284 00:12:44,750 --> 00:12:43,140 which is the Egyptian rendering of you 285 00:12:47,329 --> 00:12:44,760 know the more familiar Apophis which 286 00:12:49,570 --> 00:12:47,339 Apophis is the serpent of doom 287 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:49,580 essentially it's kind of almost 288 00:12:55,790 --> 00:12:52,800 synonymous with Tiamat in Sumerian and 289 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:55,800 Babylonian mythology so like you know 290 00:13:00,430 --> 00:12:57,510 it's just it's funny to me that all this 291 00:13:03,290 --> 00:13:00,440 stuff is coming up and of course this a 292 00:13:05,180 --> 00:13:03,300 pepper I'll just use a pope is because I 293 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:05,190 a Peppa's a little a little more 294 00:13:09,140 --> 00:13:05,910 difficult to say 295 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:09,150 so this Apophis supernova it's of course 296 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:11,250 it's twin stars it's always these twins 297 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:13,770 you know or binary you know something 298 00:13:18,650 --> 00:13:16,410 going over or twin neutron suns I mean 299 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:18,660 it just never ends and this is what I 300 00:13:25,550 --> 00:13:23,190 call the emerging dominant archetypes or 301 00:13:27,470 --> 00:13:25,560 the emergent archetypal dominance you 302 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:27,480 know how do you choose to phrase it and 303 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:29,730 what I'm basically talking about is that 304 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:31,200 there's this new language that's 305 00:13:35,060 --> 00:13:32,910 emerging you know everyone is familiar 306 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:35,070 with all the Illuminati stuff or the 307 00:13:38,990 --> 00:13:37,230 Freemasonry stuff and again I never 308 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:39,000 really took that stuff all that 309 00:13:46,460 --> 00:13:43,040 seriously because it just seemed a 310 00:13:48,950 --> 00:13:46,470 little too vaudeville you know when you 311 00:13:51,890 --> 00:13:48,960 have people like Beyonce or Rihanna or 312 00:13:55,820 --> 00:13:51,900 jay-z or Lady gaga 313 00:13:58,730 --> 00:13:55,830 whoever utilizing all the symbolism it's 314 00:14:01,520 --> 00:13:58,740 very hard to take seriously but it only 315 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:01,530 seems like that's fertilizing the fields 316 00:14:06,020 --> 00:14:04,050 before the seeds are planted I don't 317 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:06,030 think that stuff really has the 318 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:07,890 importance in and of itself that people 319 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:09,450 assigned to it I think it's like layers 320 00:14:14,540 --> 00:14:11,730 within layers it's like secrets within 321 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:14,550 secrets it's symbols within symbols for 322 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:16,290 instance again this whole idea with the 323 00:14:21,050 --> 00:14:17,910 eye and the pyramid on the dollar bill 324 00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:21,060 in fact the eye is not actually in the 325 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:22,620 pyramid it's floating above it but you 326 00:14:26,410 --> 00:14:24,480 know again you know you understand the 327 00:14:29,060 --> 00:14:26,420 symbolism everybody knows it I mean 328 00:14:32,980 --> 00:14:29,070 schoolchildren know it 20 years ago this 329 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:32,990 was like deepest darkest usenet 330 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:37,290 craziness but now in the wake of DaVinci 331 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:40,530 Code and national treasure and all these 332 00:14:44,890 --> 00:14:41,690 kind of things that sort of 333 00:14:47,890 --> 00:14:44,900 plowed the fields so to speak in the 334 00:14:49,210 --> 00:14:47,900 early 2000s I mean it's everywhere now 335 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:49,220 and everybody knows that everybody 336 00:14:53,110 --> 00:14:51,710 understands it you know I never really 337 00:14:54,610 --> 00:14:53,120 thought it was particularly interesting 338 00:14:56,860 --> 00:14:54,620 because of the way it was used it was 339 00:14:59,050 --> 00:14:56,870 like what a semi Atisha would call an 340 00:15:03,280 --> 00:14:59,060 empty signifier it's using a symbol but 341 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:03,290 not really attaching a real relevance to 342 00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:06,410 it or connotation to it and so much with 343 00:15:11,830 --> 00:15:08,720 the stuff from sites like vigilant 344 00:15:15,189 --> 00:15:11,840 citizen whoever I mean the symbolism was 345 00:15:19,929 --> 00:15:15,199 a mishmash it had no real 346 00:15:21,340 --> 00:15:19,939 meaning it was just play but I think you 347 00:15:24,519 --> 00:15:21,350 know it got people familiar with that 348 00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:24,529 and now of course we see the ante has 349 00:15:27,819 --> 00:15:25,910 almost been upped in some ways because 350 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:27,829 now we see all this Baphomet symbolism 351 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:30,170 and the Satanism symbolism you know 352 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:31,850 there's this whole controversy as we 353 00:15:36,539 --> 00:15:34,160 speed going on at the State Capitol in 354 00:15:39,069 --> 00:15:36,549 Illinois and then there's this 355 00:15:42,009 --> 00:15:39,079 manufactured controversy with a Satanic 356 00:15:45,460 --> 00:15:42,019 temple which I have no doubt in my mind 357 00:15:47,259 --> 00:15:45,470 it's a CIA operation and the chilling 358 00:15:49,179 --> 00:15:47,269 Adventures of Sabrina which is this 359 00:15:50,499 --> 00:15:49,189 Netflix series that's based on this 360 00:15:53,439 --> 00:15:50,509 comic book you know based on the 361 00:15:55,689 --> 00:15:53,449 innocent wholesome teenage witch who's 362 00:15:58,269 --> 00:15:55,699 now like a blood-drinking Satanists you 363 00:16:00,699 --> 00:15:58,279 know it's just like so that whole thing 364 00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:00,709 I mean I don't take that stuff seriously 365 00:16:06,030 --> 00:16:03,199 in and of itself either I think that all 366 00:16:09,129 --> 00:16:06,040 seems like a manipulation in many ways 367 00:16:11,169 --> 00:16:09,139 but you know there are symbols that I've 368 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:11,179 been looking at I don't think most 369 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:13,730 people have been looking at that just 370 00:16:20,350 --> 00:16:15,769 seemed to reoccur over and over and over 371 00:16:23,470 --> 00:16:20,360 and over and over again and to me they 372 00:16:25,989 --> 00:16:23,480 seem to be maybe a little bit closer to 373 00:16:29,109 --> 00:16:25,999 where the agenda is actually leading and 374 00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:29,119 in light of the things that I was 375 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:32,720 talking about last year with transgenics 376 00:16:37,629 --> 00:16:35,649 and gene-editing and artificial 377 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:37,639 insemination artificial insemination 378 00:16:44,019 --> 00:16:42,470 artificial procreation in Hull all these 379 00:16:46,179 --> 00:16:44,029 things are beginning to leech into the 380 00:16:49,299 --> 00:16:46,189 mainstream especially with these CRISPR 381 00:16:51,009 --> 00:16:49,309 babies in China you know but last year I 382 00:16:53,970 --> 00:16:51,019 was talking about you know these reports 383 00:16:58,479 --> 00:16:53,980 that scientists were talking about fetal 384 00:17:00,850 --> 00:16:58,489 CRISPR gene editing so the things that 385 00:17:03,340 --> 00:17:00,860 I've been looking at might seem obscure 386 00:17:04,659 --> 00:17:03,350 or almost frivolous to a lot of people 387 00:17:08,529 --> 00:17:04,669 but they seem to have a very high 388 00:17:09,970 --> 00:17:08,539 predictive quality to them and you 389 00:17:11,889 --> 00:17:09,980 mentioned the Great Seal let's get into 390 00:17:14,590 --> 00:17:11,899 that a little bit more because the more 391 00:17:16,389 --> 00:17:14,600 we've talked the more star magic seems 392 00:17:17,980 --> 00:17:16,399 to come up one of the big components of 393 00:17:20,110 --> 00:17:17,990 the harvest festival stuff was the 394 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:20,120 timing around the all quotation of 395 00:17:24,730 --> 00:17:22,490 Regulus and we talked about how the Book 396 00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:24,740 of Revelations is really a coded 397 00:17:29,399 --> 00:17:27,280 narrative of the constellations movement 398 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:29,409 and even that the household item 399 00:17:33,810 --> 00:17:31,450 characters in Beauty and the Beast are 400 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:33,820 actually modeled after constellations 401 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:36,730 and you've traced this type of celestial 402 00:17:40,830 --> 00:17:39,010 subtext all the way to the Great Seal it 403 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:40,840 seems is this what you think the eye and 404 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:42,400 the pyramid and the eagle with the 405 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:44,650 shield symbols are really all about now 406 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:48,970 just twin allusions to Lyra is it yeah 407 00:17:55,140 --> 00:17:52,480 it's a lyre into Vega and again what was 408 00:17:56,909 --> 00:17:55,150 I talking about last year with Chris 409 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:56,919 Cornell's death and the relationship to 410 00:18:00,360 --> 00:17:58,450 Jeff Buckley you know which is a whole 411 00:18:03,060 --> 00:18:00,370 other discussion because you're this 412 00:18:05,279 --> 00:18:03,070 whole idea of the dying and rising 413 00:18:06,990 --> 00:18:05,289 shepherd boy that seems to repeat over 414 00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:07,000 and over throughout history and I 415 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:09,700 pointed that Jeff Buckley's actually his 416 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:11,650 real name was Scott Morehead but his 417 00:18:16,620 --> 00:18:14,530 adopted name Buckley in Gaelic means 418 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:16,630 shepherd boy but the shepherd boy is 419 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:19,570 below DS which is just north of the 420 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:22,890 celestial equator of Virgo and Leo and 421 00:18:27,029 --> 00:18:25,090 bodis has always had a very close 422 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:27,039 connections to that sort of twinning of 423 00:18:30,380 --> 00:18:29,530 those what I call the beauty and the 424 00:18:32,850 --> 00:18:30,390 beast' 425 00:18:36,570 --> 00:18:32,860 constellations but there's actually a 426 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:36,580 super void according to astronomers 427 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:39,850 there's a region of space within the 428 00:18:43,820 --> 00:18:41,650 constellation of Elodie's that's empty 429 00:18:47,250 --> 00:18:43,830 that has nothing and it's enormous it's 430 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:47,260 millions of light-years across 431 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:51,640 but there's also another super void in a 432 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:55,510 radness and a radish the river so it's 433 00:18:58,980 --> 00:18:56,890 like the shepherd boy in the river both 434 00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:58,990 have these super voids and the my you 435 00:19:03,540 --> 00:19:01,120 know you following me you know you know 436 00:19:05,070 --> 00:19:03,550 that whole narrative by now I hope a lot 437 00:19:06,810 --> 00:19:05,080 of your listeners are familiar with that 438 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:06,820 narrative by now but it's like you know 439 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,050 Jeff Michael you drowned in the 440 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:10,240 Mississippi River and you have these two 441 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:13,600 giant voids in space the one and radness 442 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:16,000 is called the cold spot and there are a 443 00:19:20,610 --> 00:19:17,770 lot of astronomers that believe that 444 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:20,620 this is actually created by another 445 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:22,810 universe bumping up against ours and 446 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:26,260 that that is these voids are almost like 447 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:29,370 some sort of window area where things 448 00:19:35,610 --> 00:19:32,890 radiation you know whatever can come 449 00:19:37,950 --> 00:19:35,620 through into our universe from the 450 00:19:40,110 --> 00:19:37,960 souther universe because the the 451 00:19:43,020 --> 00:19:40,120 grinding of these two universes against 452 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:43,030 each other is creating these massive 453 00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:46,810 empty spots and that has to do with 454 00:19:50,130 --> 00:19:48,070 another thing that I was talking about 455 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:50,140 which is like supernovas and how 456 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:53,710 supernova is particularly it's almost 457 00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:55,570 counterintuitive because scientists now 458 00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:58,240 believe that a supernova that's very far 459 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:02,320 away it's somehow transmitting through 460 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:05,170 the superboy the cosmic rays the cosmic 461 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:08,290 galactic radiation is going to have much 462 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:10,450 more of an impact on us and this of 463 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:13,510 course led me to the 1987a supernova 464 00:20:18,510 --> 00:20:16,240 which was in Dorado and we can get to 465 00:20:20,430 --> 00:20:18,520 that later and how that corresponds to 466 00:20:22,260 --> 00:20:20,440 the pearly dewdrops thing and the pearly 467 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:22,270 dewdrops being you know what I now 468 00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:25,210 believe is cosmic rays so it isn't just 469 00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:27,430 our magic it isn't just you know what 470 00:20:32,910 --> 00:20:29,830 you would believe star magic to be which 471 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:32,920 is ceremonial symbolic you know it's a 472 00:20:38,850 --> 00:20:36,130 symbolic system that is may be tied into 473 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:38,860 astrology or may be tied into Babylonian 474 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:40,810 star magic because they were really the 475 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:42,730 innovators of this I think it has to do 476 00:20:46,910 --> 00:20:44,050 with these understandings of these 477 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:46,920 cosmic rays these galactic energies 478 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:49,840 neutrinos and all these kinds of things 479 00:20:55,290 --> 00:20:52,510 that are coming through space and 480 00:20:56,730 --> 00:20:55,300 influenced us in a very direct ways 481 00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,740 because 482 00:21:01,379 --> 00:20:58,480 it's believed the cosmic radiation 483 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:01,389 cosmic rays are responsible for instance 484 00:21:07,369 --> 00:21:04,450 politeness that lightning is caused by 485 00:21:09,419 --> 00:21:07,379 the antimatter from these cosmic rays 486 00:21:12,269 --> 00:21:09,429 colliding with the matter in our 487 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:12,279 atmosphere so it isn't just star magic 488 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:13,809 in and of itself as we would understand 489 00:21:17,399 --> 00:21:15,730 it which is almost like a form of 490 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:17,409 animism I think that there's a lot of 491 00:21:22,049 --> 00:21:19,990 science tied up in this and it has to do 492 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:22,059 with understandings of the physics these 493 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:26,080 very advanced and esoteric physics that 494 00:21:29,549 --> 00:21:28,330 are really almost like a kind of sorcery 495 00:21:32,460 --> 00:21:29,559 in and of themselves 496 00:21:35,159 --> 00:21:32,470 I can barely wrap my mind around it just 497 00:21:38,399 --> 00:21:35,169 to start with but I just keep seeing 498 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:38,409 these things corresponding to for 499 00:21:46,830 --> 00:21:41,049 instance again - these super voids which 500 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:46,840 are created in query by universes so 501 00:21:49,769 --> 00:21:48,369 that to me ties into the whole idea of 502 00:21:51,629 --> 00:21:49,779 twins that there's like this twin 503 00:21:53,730 --> 00:21:51,639 universe and it's like what is our 504 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:53,740 relationship with this twin universe how 505 00:21:57,710 --> 00:21:55,650 does it affect us 506 00:21:59,840 --> 00:21:57,720 it's a whole thing and it might sound 507 00:22:03,080 --> 00:21:59,850 completely arcane and confusing to 508 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:03,090 people and like I said I'm still in the 509 00:22:08,409 --> 00:22:05,370 very earliest days of trying to even 510 00:22:12,169 --> 00:22:08,419 just grasp that this thing even is real 511 00:22:15,260 --> 00:22:12,179 but it makes sense to me it makes sense 512 00:22:17,299 --> 00:22:15,270 to me in the timing of these NASA 513 00:22:20,570 --> 00:22:17,309 rituals and some of these mass rituals 514 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:20,580 at these sporting events and awards 515 00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:22,650 ceremonies that I think they all have to 516 00:22:27,940 --> 00:22:25,380 do with this understanding that the 517 00:22:30,590 --> 00:22:27,950 movement of this the cosmos and 518 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:30,600 particularly sound sound and music and 519 00:22:35,899 --> 00:22:34,080 its relation to the cosmos grants power 520 00:22:38,659 --> 00:22:35,909 you know unto the people that can 521 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:38,669 understand it it might be complete 522 00:22:43,940 --> 00:22:41,039 delusion and insanity on their part but 523 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:43,950 I do believe that it's at the very core 524 00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:46,500 if you peel away sort of all the 525 00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:48,840 disguises it's almost like a you know a 526 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:51,929 Russian doll and you get to the core it 527 00:23:00,110 --> 00:22:55,010 seems to be this very strange and 528 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:00,120 esoteric understanding of cosmic rays 529 00:23:05,890 --> 00:23:01,610 and 530 00:23:07,660 --> 00:23:05,900 there's an argument that can be made 531 00:23:10,420 --> 00:23:07,670 that you know say the ancient Saturn 532 00:23:12,010 --> 00:23:10,430 cults we're almost sort of lurching 533 00:23:14,290 --> 00:23:12,020 towards this because you know is going 534 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:14,300 to explain to me I mean Saturn was seen 535 00:23:18,550 --> 00:23:15,770 as the gateway to the rest of the 536 00:23:21,610 --> 00:23:18,560 universe that Saturn was seen in the 537 00:23:25,390 --> 00:23:21,620 ancient times as the outermost planet so 538 00:23:29,410 --> 00:23:25,400 that I think is the real reason is this 539 00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:29,420 sort of pattern and canonization of 540 00:23:34,570 --> 00:23:31,520 Saturn and Saturn symbolism because it 541 00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:34,580 is seen as the gateway to the Stars and 542 00:23:39,220 --> 00:23:36,950 you know you've talked to Gordon you've 543 00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:39,230 talked to people like Austin copic you 544 00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:40,760 know this whole idea of the deck hands 545 00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:43,670 and I really have to admit that like I 546 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:48,070 can't even start to address that stuff 547 00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:51,170 it's not the way my mind works I'm just 548 00:23:59,370 --> 00:23:54,640 trying to see like what the gross 549 00:24:02,110 --> 00:23:59,380 movements of planets and stars in 550 00:24:04,450 --> 00:24:02,120 constellations and how that correspond 551 00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:04,460 to how people behave do you understand 552 00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:05,720 what I'm saying if you understand the 553 00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:08,150 distinction here it's like if you go 554 00:24:12,510 --> 00:24:10,300 past 555 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:12,520 the occult symbolism that we're familiar 556 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:14,770 with and you just start to look like 557 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:16,810 well if they're playing with these 558 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:20,410 symbols at this time and in this place 559 00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:22,810 how does that correspond to what's going 560 00:24:28,290 --> 00:24:25,540 on in the sky and do they feel somehow 561 00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:28,300 that what's going on in the sky is going 562 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:29,980 to unpack them and that they can 563 00:24:35,820 --> 00:24:33,250 manipulate it or at least so much like 564 00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:35,830 putting a bucket out for rainwater or 565 00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:37,960 something you know can they take 566 00:24:43,290 --> 00:24:41,020 advantage of this if certain rituals are 567 00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:43,300 performed and once you sort of reach 568 00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:45,070 that understanding and then you go back 569 00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:46,630 and look at particularly all these 570 00:24:51,540 --> 00:24:48,040 things going on in the past couple of 571 00:24:54,690 --> 00:24:51,550 years it all congeals at all gels and I 572 00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:54,700 think this whole idea with Momoa ties 573 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,350 into that because why did they say it 574 00:25:00,510 --> 00:24:58,480 was from Vega from Lyra I mean the thing 575 00:25:02,610 --> 00:25:00,520 was literally just a pixel on a screen 576 00:25:04,140 --> 00:25:02,620 it was the size of a pixel on the screen 577 00:25:06,540 --> 00:25:04,150 how can you just look at that and 578 00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:06,550 determined that it came from Lyra or you 579 00:25:11,340 --> 00:25:09,160 know specifically Vega like in the 580 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:11,350 aftermath of Las Vegas and so on and so 581 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,080 forth you know they since backpedaled on 582 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:16,240 that but i think that that was part of 583 00:25:21,150 --> 00:25:18,310 this ritual maybe they were anticipating 584 00:25:23,670 --> 00:25:21,160 that this thing was coming in maybe they 585 00:25:25,950 --> 00:25:23,680 spotted it you know in the outer reaches 586 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:25,960 like an ort cloud or something and they 587 00:25:31,290 --> 00:25:27,970 knew it was going to make a flyby so all 588 00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:31,300 these events were so orchestrated the 589 00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,030 same way when you read the ancient the 590 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:36,400 Hindu festival of Diwali the festival of 591 00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:37,610 lights 592 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:39,620 God was gonna come in for a landing so 593 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:42,110 you notice whatever those the Vimanas 594 00:25:45,130 --> 00:25:43,610 you know it's gonna come in for a 595 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:45,140 landing as well mama so they all get up 596 00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:46,790 there with lanten so he can land it 597 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:48,710 seems to me like very much the same kind 598 00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:52,130 of mindset but again I mean this just 599 00:25:59,140 --> 00:25:55,910 probably seems so unbelievably arcane to 600 00:26:00,880 --> 00:25:59,150 most people and certainly to me but yeah 601 00:26:03,340 --> 00:26:00,890 if I sort of plug this in it's sort of 602 00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:03,350 like the questions I ask it just keeps 603 00:26:08,290 --> 00:26:06,110 coming up aces I mean it's like I'm at a 604 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:08,300 Las Vegas craps table you know and I 605 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:09,810 just 606 00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:13,050 unbelievable so I mean in a very 607 00:26:18,020 --> 00:26:16,020 long-winded and roundabout fashion 608 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,030 because again it's not something that 609 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:20,880 I've really been able to put my fingers 610 00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:23,520 on it isn't just the stars it's more 611 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:26,340 than the stars it has to do with you 612 00:26:32,450 --> 00:26:29,370 know nebulas and explosions in the sky 613 00:26:37,790 --> 00:26:32,460 is so to speak supernovas you know all 614 00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:37,800 these events in the cosmos that sort of 615 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:40,670 animate the stars if that makes sense 616 00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:43,890 well I really do think that phrase space 617 00:26:50,060 --> 00:26:47,280 is an alter pretty much nails it and if 618 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:50,070 it all wasn't complex enough we also 619 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:52,110 have this factor where sometimes things 620 00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:54,930 are literally true and sometimes even 621 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:56,070 though they're presented one way they're 622 00:27:00,620 --> 00:26:58,890 really just symbolically true or pieces 623 00:27:02,510 --> 00:27:00,630 are moved to fit tighter than they 624 00:27:05,270 --> 00:27:02,520 really do like the example last time we 625 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:05,280 talked about how Boris Johnson recited 626 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:07,500 that poem mandala and it was thrown into 627 00:27:11,570 --> 00:27:09,090 the mix when the shooting happened at 628 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,580 Mandalay Bay to make it look related but 629 00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:12,720 it was actually something that was 630 00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:15,900 months old so with a Mulla Mulla I don't 631 00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:18,270 know if it's really acting like a quote 632 00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:20,670 scout before an invasion or if it's all 633 00:27:27,050 --> 00:27:24,240 just talk made to look like the name was 634 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:27,060 foreshadowing but regardless it's 635 00:27:32,540 --> 00:27:29,910 fascinating how ritualized in symbolic 636 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:32,550 our space agencies and information 637 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:35,310 systems are and a lot of people do seem 638 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:37,170 to get hung up on the categories of 639 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:40,170 spirits versus aliens but I don't know 640 00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:41,490 that we even need to make that 641 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:43,860 distinction and as trendy as spirits are 642 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,890 a lot of this stuff does seem to point 643 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:49,200 to space in one way or another just like 644 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:51,510 you've been saying yeah I'm very much 645 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:53,250 look like all of the above kind of guy 646 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:55,290 you know with so many things that we're 647 00:27:59,570 --> 00:27:56,970 not certain of that we don't have access 648 00:28:02,390 --> 00:27:59,580 to the information that defines them why 649 00:28:05,270 --> 00:28:02,400 not keep all your options open you know 650 00:28:06,590 --> 00:28:05,280 what I'm saying in the case it's just 651 00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:06,600 funny because I realized in that whole 652 00:28:11,450 --> 00:28:09,000 rant that I just unloaded on you I 653 00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:11,460 didn't actually address the Huayra issue 654 00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:14,220 so but I had a sort of preface it 655 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:15,660 because I want people to understand 656 00:28:20,780 --> 00:28:18,210 where I'm getting at so one of the key 657 00:28:22,139 --> 00:28:20,790 features in the constellation of Lyra 658 00:28:26,459 --> 00:28:22,149 which is 659 00:28:28,829 --> 00:28:26,469 either Apollo or Orpheus's liar or his 660 00:28:31,529 --> 00:28:28,839 harp if you look for the symbolism 661 00:28:35,999 --> 00:28:31,539 you're going to see it for instance the 662 00:28:40,110 --> 00:28:36,009 old Irish flag with Lyra LIBOR was said 663 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:42,750 I believe that the Mexican flag is Elara 664 00:28:48,270 --> 00:28:47,050 and its relationship to Draco so it's 665 00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:48,280 the kind of thing where this has just 666 00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:50,200 been hiding in plain sight because one 667 00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:52,780 of the things I discovered is that the 668 00:29:00,390 --> 00:28:56,710 old passport that was written for the 669 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:00,400 United States in its earliest days it 670 00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:02,290 showed you that the Eagle that 671 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:03,820 everybody's familiar with the eagle with 672 00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:04,480 a shield 673 00:29:09,810 --> 00:29:07,480 I'm the shield is actually it's a 674 00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:09,820 transposition of the harp because if you 675 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:12,220 just picture that eagle on the shield on 676 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:15,370 the obverse of the Great Seal it's 677 00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:18,070 identical to particularly at that time 678 00:29:26,570 --> 00:29:21,880 the illustrations of Lyra and you know 679 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:26,580 the shield and the harp or the lyre are 680 00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:29,080 essentially identical in shape and that 681 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:32,140 the stripes basically our standings for 682 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:35,530 the strings on the harp again if you 683 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:38,770 look at this old passport from the early 684 00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:42,640 1800s you know it has the United States 685 00:29:47,130 --> 00:29:45,520 of America so on and so forth but the 686 00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:47,140 Eagle that we're familiar with from the 687 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:49,150 dollar bill is actually a depiction of 688 00:29:54,810 --> 00:29:52,890 Lyra so this is official United States 689 00:29:58,170 --> 00:29:54,820 documentation this is an official 690 00:30:00,570 --> 00:29:58,180 document a passport which that point in 691 00:30:02,430 --> 00:30:00,580 time was very rare that a lot of people 692 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:02,440 held passports and it was also extremely 693 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:04,450 important particularly for a new country 694 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:06,250 so it was so important for them so 695 00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:10,030 reason to put a depiction of Lyra which 696 00:30:14,370 --> 00:30:12,460 again is identical to the Eagle and the 697 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:14,380 Great Seal but you know is that cloud 698 00:30:18,210 --> 00:30:16,090 with the Stars you know that everybody 699 00:30:19,470 --> 00:30:18,220 sort of has always speculated on you 700 00:30:22,290 --> 00:30:19,480 know and if everybody wants to just take 701 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:22,300 out a dollar bill or just look up a jpg 702 00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:24,970 on your computer of that and when you 703 00:30:29,550 --> 00:30:27,520 look at the cloud over the eagle what 704 00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:29,560 that actually is and I believe very 705 00:30:33,450 --> 00:30:31,390 strongly that is because I think it 706 00:30:36,030 --> 00:30:33,460 shows up in other context is that it's 707 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:36,040 the ring nebula so just to give a sense 708 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:37,530 of history 709 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:40,410 there was a conference called by the 710 00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:42,330 early founding fathers the United States 711 00:30:48,970 --> 00:30:45,960 to design heraldry and the flag and the 712 00:30:51,260 --> 00:30:48,980 seal and all these kind of things and 713 00:30:53,020 --> 00:30:51,270 images that were familiar with weren't 714 00:30:57,540 --> 00:30:53,030 actually 715 00:30:59,920 --> 00:30:57,550 developed until six years later in 1782 716 00:31:02,080 --> 00:30:59,930 but what happened in between then is 717 00:31:04,510 --> 00:31:02,090 that the ring nebula was discovered and 718 00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:04,520 the ring nebula is basically you've 719 00:31:08,830 --> 00:31:06,350 probably seen in National Geographic I 720 00:31:11,770 --> 00:31:08,840 mean it looks like a giant eye opening 721 00:31:14,860 --> 00:31:11,780 up in space and it's just to the south 722 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:14,870 of Lyra now what I believe happened is 723 00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:18,130 that when this object was spotted by the 724 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:20,750 Freemasons and the other secret society 725 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:24,190 members that made up the entirety of the 726 00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:27,530 early United States government when you 727 00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:29,270 see that term and knew it kept us you 728 00:31:35,260 --> 00:31:31,430 know he has favored our undertaking 729 00:31:37,870 --> 00:31:35,270 I believe that what that was inspired by 730 00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:37,880 was when the ring nebula was discovered 731 00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:40,880 they saw this as a sign there was a sign 732 00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:43,310 in the heavens when you talk about star 733 00:31:46,930 --> 00:31:44,630 magic it doesn't get any more potent 734 00:31:48,580 --> 00:31:46,940 than that you know it's like Lyra has 735 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:48,590 always been important for reasons that I 736 00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:52,490 cannot understand but they were looking 737 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:54,470 at it you know they had telescopes you 738 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:57,050 know these guys were sort of polymaths 739 00:32:01,480 --> 00:31:58,370 interested in all sorts of different 740 00:32:03,730 --> 00:32:01,490 Sciences and when this whole thing shows 741 00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:03,740 up with the ring nebula this giant eye 742 00:32:09,790 --> 00:32:07,100 in the sky basically they took that as 743 00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:09,800 an omen that it's time to start now okay 744 00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:11,480 it's time to get the show on the road 745 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:13,660 and that's why I think that the eye 746 00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:16,250 which again is not part of the pyramid 747 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:18,860 it's the capstone now the interesting 748 00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:21,650 thing about that and folks can go to my 749 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:23,780 blog and maybe Greg can put the link in 750 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:25,850 the description but basically what that 751 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:30,760 is is that it's sort of a 3d model of 752 00:32:36,910 --> 00:32:34,730 stars connected in the constellation of 753 00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:36,920 Lyra so for instance in sulla fat and 754 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:42,080 Shelley AK and Vega and Zeta Lyra if you 755 00:32:46,420 --> 00:32:44,450 just connect those stars at an upside 756 00:32:48,940 --> 00:32:46,430 down angle you'll see the unfinished 757 00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:48,950 pyramid so what I did is I traced those 758 00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:51,440 stars out on a constellation map and 759 00:33:00,440 --> 00:32:56,320 they overlay perfectly I mean bang on 760 00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:00,450 perfectly to the Great Seal 761 00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:02,760 the perspective and the Great Seal it's 762 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:04,920 kind of wonky it's not deep enough it 763 00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:06,390 doesn't look right well the reason it 764 00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:09,000 doesn't look right is because they 765 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:13,320 overlaid this star map of Lyra over the 766 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:15,570 unfinished pyramid but the top of it is 767 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:18,090 sort of angled in between sheliak and 768 00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:20,370 sulla fat but so what that marks the 769 00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:23,430 bottom where that triangle with the eye 770 00:33:29,780 --> 00:33:28,200 sits and sheliak marks the top of the 771 00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:29,790 unfinished pyramid so if you just drew 772 00:33:33,950 --> 00:33:32,460 it 180 degree line straight across and 773 00:33:35,950 --> 00:33:33,960 sheliak you would have the top of that 774 00:33:39,770 --> 00:33:35,960 pyramid but here's the interesting thing 775 00:33:42,170 --> 00:33:39,780 so we have that correspondence there but 776 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:42,180 when you look at that correspondence and 777 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:43,830 you connect the dots in those star maps 778 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:47,690 the ring nebula is right where 779 00:33:52,570 --> 00:33:50,990 the all-seeing eye guess so 780 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:52,580 people are gonna say well it means this 781 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:53,930 and it means this and you know 782 00:33:59,680 --> 00:33:57,200 Rosicrucianism or alchemy or whatever oh 783 00:34:03,280 --> 00:33:59,690 well maybe it does but when you look at 784 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:03,290 that actual seal it's so dead on that 785 00:34:05,530 --> 00:34:05,210 there's absolutely no way you can argue 786 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:05,540 with it 787 00:34:11,260 --> 00:34:08,389 it's the all-seeing eye is the ring 788 00:34:14,340 --> 00:34:11,270 nebula and again like I think that when 789 00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:14,350 that showed up and it showed up in 1779 790 00:34:20,619 --> 00:34:17,560 when I was first spotted they said 791 00:34:23,619 --> 00:34:20,629 that's the all-seeing eye of their God 792 00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:23,629 the Masonic God or whomever any favors 793 00:34:26,619 --> 00:34:25,340 us I mean this is the way magic and 794 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,629 statecraft 795 00:34:30,909 --> 00:34:28,879 have intersected from millennia I mean 796 00:34:33,550 --> 00:34:30,919 the Romans they wouldn't even like cross 797 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:33,560 the street unless they ripped open a 798 00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:34,970 squirrel or something and read its 799 00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:36,560 entrails you understand what I'm saying 800 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:39,230 so it's just like statecraft and magic 801 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:41,090 have always been very intimately linked 802 00:34:48,010 --> 00:34:45,919 and there's just no arguing with the 803 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:48,020 geometry here I mean it's perfect it's 804 00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:52,129 dead-on it explains why the capstone is 805 00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,740 floating above the pyramid and it also 806 00:35:01,540 --> 00:34:57,280 explains why we have that real wonky 807 00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:01,550 perspective on the left-hand side once 808 00:35:04,990 --> 00:35:03,860 you understand that a lot of people are 809 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:05,000 going to disagree with that and a lot of 810 00:35:10,270 --> 00:35:08,090 people are going to be like oh wait it 811 00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:10,280 almost seems too obvious it's so obvious 812 00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:12,550 and it's hidden in plain sight 813 00:35:16,210 --> 00:35:14,780 the people are going to be disappointed 814 00:35:19,090 --> 00:35:16,220 they're going to think well it's going 815 00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:19,100 to mean something more but let's 816 00:35:23,710 --> 00:35:20,900 fast-forward again to this period that 817 00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:23,720 we're talking about like when Vega in 818 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:26,960 this star map that I'm discussing here 819 00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:30,230 Vega is the cornerstone and if you know 820 00:35:35,310 --> 00:35:32,230 about Freemasonry and even like just 821 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:35,320 Mason like you know operative 822 00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:37,040 occupational masonry I mean the 823 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:39,200 cornerstone was always seen as extremely 824 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:41,930 important in building any sort of 825 00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:44,810 edifice so Vega is the cornerstone in 826 00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:47,480 this unfinished pyramid that I'm talking 827 00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:49,700 about that you can make anybody can make 828 00:35:55,069 --> 00:35:52,230 by connecting these stars 829 00:35:56,859 --> 00:35:55,079 so with that and the ring nebula with 830 00:35:59,299 --> 00:35:56,869 the ring nebula being the all-seeing eye 831 00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,309 all of a sudden I just start thinking 832 00:36:03,950 --> 00:36:01,200 like well where else is this you know I 833 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:03,960 start looking around the sky so it's 834 00:36:08,359 --> 00:36:06,089 like been a physical object which they 835 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:08,369 claim came from Vega right I mean 836 00:36:12,589 --> 00:36:10,170 shortly after the whole thing in Las 837 00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:12,599 Vegas I mean I did your show after that 838 00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:15,420 we all know what I was looking at I mean 839 00:36:18,349 --> 00:36:16,980 everybody so many people have been 840 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,359 looking at the symbolism of that it's 841 00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:21,119 overkill and then this thing from Vega 842 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:23,910 shows up am I the only person who like 843 00:36:28,309 --> 00:36:26,730 SOTA said wait a minute 844 00:36:29,870 --> 00:36:28,319 what were we talking about for like the 845 00:36:35,870 --> 00:36:29,880 entire month and then this thing from 846 00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:35,880 Vega shows up I mean hello so I don't 847 00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:38,400 understand why there's this fixation on 848 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:44,220 Vega but there is and I think the eagle 849 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:44,990 has landed 850 00:36:52,819 --> 00:36:49,530 is Vega but Vega is also the falling 851 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:52,829 angel well I believe that it's seen as 852 00:36:57,020 --> 00:36:54,690 synonymous with the falling angels you 853 00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,030 know with the Watchers and that's 854 00:37:03,079 --> 00:36:59,520 because the term Vega comes from the 855 00:37:07,299 --> 00:37:03,089 Arabic in Arabic phrase meaning the 856 00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:07,309 eagle who lands at the Eagles falls so 857 00:37:14,089 --> 00:37:11,119 what did they say and that whole Apollo 858 00:37:17,299 --> 00:37:14,099 show you know the eagle has landed and 859 00:37:20,359 --> 00:37:17,309 the eagle somehow has something to do 860 00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:20,369 with Vega and Lyra I don't know why yet 861 00:37:25,279 --> 00:37:23,099 I'm still working on it but 862 00:37:27,259 --> 00:37:25,289 that was a real mind blower to me and 863 00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:27,269 then I went back and read the history 864 00:37:32,029 --> 00:37:29,339 and it's like The Addams Brothers you 865 00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:32,039 know we had George Bush who passed away 866 00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:34,470 recently so that was a father-son 867 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:37,499 president tag-team right well they were 868 00:37:41,059 --> 00:37:39,450 the second father-son presidential tag 869 00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:41,069 team because the first was John Adams 870 00:37:44,269 --> 00:37:42,900 and John Quincy Adams you know the 871 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:44,279 interesting thing about John Adams and 872 00:37:49,749 --> 00:37:45,930 John Quincy Adams is that they were not 873 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:49,759 Freemasons John Quincy Adams became the 874 00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:51,390 presidential candidate for the 875 00:37:55,759 --> 00:37:53,549 anti-masonic party which was the first 876 00:37:59,630 --> 00:37:55,769 major third party movement in the United 877 00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,640 States and led to so many things that 878 00:38:02,839 --> 00:38:01,200 were still dealing with today you know 879 00:38:03,799 --> 00:38:02,849 for instance skull and bones and sort of 880 00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:03,809 a reaction to that 881 00:38:09,249 --> 00:38:05,940 the whole Greek system the paternal 882 00:38:12,469 --> 00:38:09,259 system was really a reaction to the 883 00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:12,479 anti-masonic party but these guys were 884 00:38:16,609 --> 00:38:14,609 not really big into the say the least 885 00:38:18,410 --> 00:38:16,619 into the Freemasons and there are a lot 886 00:38:20,509 --> 00:38:18,420 of rumors that they were members of 887 00:38:22,279 --> 00:38:20,519 what's called the Dragon Society and the 888 00:38:24,829 --> 00:38:22,289 Dragon Society is something that dates 889 00:38:25,999 --> 00:38:24,839 back to England and I'm not exactly sure 890 00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:26,009 but I think it might have something to 891 00:38:31,459 --> 00:38:28,920 do with this whole idea that the royal 892 00:38:33,259 --> 00:38:31,469 families in the era socratis of England 893 00:38:35,029 --> 00:38:33,269 can all tie their lineage back to the 894 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:35,039 Vlad the Impaler who is the dragon 895 00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:38,130 Dracula means the dragon right so I 896 00:38:41,259 --> 00:38:39,390 think there might be in some sort of 897 00:38:43,609 --> 00:38:41,269 connotation there I'm not exactly sure 898 00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:43,619 but anyway the point is is that the 899 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:46,920 Adams father and son were really into 900 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:49,890 this whole adoration of Vega and we're 901 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:53,249 very open about it and very adamant 902 00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:55,170 about it no pun intended I mean they 903 00:39:01,729 --> 00:38:58,640 were very adamant that Vega becomes Lyra 904 00:39:05,059 --> 00:39:01,739 including they have become the actual 905 00:39:09,469 --> 00:39:05,069 symbols of the United States so I think 906 00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:09,479 I spell out rather methodically how the 907 00:39:16,190 --> 00:39:12,660 Great Seal is just twin depictions of 908 00:39:17,569 --> 00:39:16,200 Lyra I don't understand why but you know 909 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:17,579 the thing that really struck me is that 910 00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:21,930 back in April there was that whole deal 911 00:39:25,850 --> 00:39:23,310 with 912 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:25,860 unquote chemical attack in Syria and so 913 00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:27,750 on and so forth and was like well how is 914 00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:30,870 Trump gonna respond to this and then 915 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:33,540 they launch these rockets on Friday the 916 00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:36,900 13th it's just it never ends but that 917 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:39,420 was also the start of the Lyra's and the 918 00:39:45,630 --> 00:39:42,330 liar odds are immediate hours that seem 919 00:39:49,529 --> 00:39:45,640 to come from the direction of Lyra 920 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:49,539 that just seemed to me like could be it 921 00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:53,170 looked like a case of sympathetic magic 922 00:39:56,730 --> 00:39:55,180 that when you look at those Rockets I 923 00:39:58,349 --> 00:39:56,740 mean I don't think any of them actually 924 00:40:00,660 --> 00:39:58,359 hit anything they just a little landed 925 00:40:02,549 --> 00:40:00,670 in the desert but when you see the 926 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:02,559 footage of those Rockets they're almost 927 00:40:07,319 --> 00:40:05,710 identical to meteors when you see these 928 00:40:10,770 --> 00:40:07,329 meteor showers you know shooting stars 929 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:10,780 so on and so forth so that to me just it 930 00:40:14,190 --> 00:40:12,010 just seems like somebody was writing a 931 00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:14,200 script and this whole thing with 932 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:16,390 Khashoggi 933 00:40:21,150 --> 00:40:19,599 he was killed allegedly killed I mean 934 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:21,160 who knows what really happened in the 935 00:40:27,089 --> 00:40:23,890 Turkish embassy at the start of the 936 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:27,099 Orionids and the Orionids were 937 00:40:33,059 --> 00:40:30,910 specifically called the Nephilim by the 938 00:40:34,339 --> 00:40:33,069 ancient Jews the wording is a little 939 00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,349 different but you know they were 940 00:40:38,609 --> 00:40:37,119 identified with the Nephilim in the 941 00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:38,619 Bible you know the Fallen Angels the 942 00:40:42,359 --> 00:40:40,960 Watchers so on and so forth so it's just 943 00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:42,369 very interesting that there's this sort 944 00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:45,910 of very ritualistic kind of feeling 945 00:40:51,769 --> 00:40:48,430 murder on the day that the Orionids 946 00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:51,779 begin and then there's a bombing of 947 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:53,440 damascus and you know the whole thing 948 00:40:58,410 --> 00:40:55,630 with sea area and sirius and so on and 949 00:41:02,160 --> 00:40:58,420 so forth on the the opening day of the 950 00:41:04,589 --> 00:41:02,170 Lyrids so it's probably like brand new 951 00:41:08,220 --> 00:41:04,599 to a lot of your listeners this whole 952 00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:08,230 idea that it isn't just stars it's these 953 00:41:12,359 --> 00:41:10,960 meteor showers and these explosions you 954 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:12,369 know the supernovae and so you know 955 00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:14,650 we're hearing that Betelgeuse battled 956 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:19,119 guys is in Orion of course is said to be 957 00:41:23,339 --> 00:41:22,089 going supernova at some point in time 958 00:41:26,339 --> 00:41:23,349 there's a supernova that they're 959 00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:26,349 expecting in 2020 and I believe that's 960 00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:28,180 also a twin thing but it's also the twin 961 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:32,319 things of the 20 and the 20 so yeah it 962 00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:35,410 just seems like a brand-new maybe not a 963 00:41:38,999 --> 00:41:36,640 brand new for a lot of people but it 964 00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,009 just seems to me that it's not something 965 00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:40,960 that people are discussing out there and 966 00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:43,900 I don't know why but to me it just seems 967 00:41:49,849 --> 00:41:47,500 very obvious that a lot of the ritualism 968 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:49,859 and the symbolism that we're seeing is 969 00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:53,650 connected to these cosmic events mm-hmm 970 00:41:57,900 --> 00:41:55,990 I'm with you and people really should 971 00:41:59,640 --> 00:41:57,910 check out your blog post on the Great 972 00:42:01,859 --> 00:41:59,650 Seal and look at the back of a dollar 973 00:42:03,450 --> 00:42:01,869 because I'm pretty convinced this is 974 00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,460 what we're looking at of course if it 975 00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:05,440 was just one side maybe people could 976 00:42:08,849 --> 00:42:06,220 dismiss it 977 00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:08,859 but both sides are representations of 978 00:42:14,549 --> 00:42:11,500 Lyra in different forms which is even 979 00:42:17,249 --> 00:42:14,559 more specific the side of the pyramid is 980 00:42:18,930 --> 00:42:17,259 a full-on overlay of the actual look of 981 00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:18,940 the constellation in the night sky and 982 00:42:23,549 --> 00:42:21,190 the shield on the other side hides the 983 00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:23,559 symbolic representation with the harp 984 00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:26,140 and as you said people might think the 985 00:42:28,589 --> 00:42:27,400 harp and the shield is a bit of a 986 00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:28,599 stretch but when you see it on the old 987 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:30,030 passport it's not nearly 988 00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:32,610 is hidden it's way more obvious and it 989 00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,470 makes me think about all the structures 990 00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:36,960 that align with these stars as well as 991 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:38,910 the Great Pyramid maybe it's always been 992 00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:41,610 about pointing back home so to speak if 993 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:44,280 I was to go way out there I mean anytime 994 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,890 humans conquer a new land we tend to 995 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:49,440 plant our flag maybe we have some 996 00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:51,330 ancient non-human power on the planet 997 00:42:56,780 --> 00:42:53,550 that likes to embed subtle nods to where 998 00:42:58,820 --> 00:42:56,790 they're really from I mean why else well 999 00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,830 see that so that brings me up to you 1000 00:43:03,860 --> 00:43:00,960 know if you asked me to speculate where 1001 00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:03,870 I think this is sort of headed because I 1002 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:06,480 keep finding this link between Lyra 1003 00:43:12,110 --> 00:43:09,690 and Orion and they're sort of on 1004 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:12,120 opposite sides of the celestial globe so 1005 00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:14,130 I don't understand exactly where that's 1006 00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:15,900 coming from and what exactly it means I 1007 00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:21,660 do know that Orion is identified with 1008 00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:25,230 Nimrod the hunter from the Bible 1009 00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:30,240 and also to the nephilim and it's also 1010 00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:31,670 when we talk about the string of pearls 1011 00:43:36,770 --> 00:43:34,800 the belt of Orion was called the string 1012 00:43:39,099 --> 00:43:36,780 of pearls and then we recently saw these 1013 00:43:41,330 --> 00:43:39,109 images of strings of pearls 1014 00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:41,340 quote-unquote appearing on the surface 1015 00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:44,160 of Jupiter and we also saw a dolphin and 1016 00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:45,390 with dolphin it's going to tie into 1017 00:43:51,260 --> 00:43:48,060 Apollo and it's also going to tie into 1018 00:43:52,340 --> 00:43:51,270 Delphi in the Oracle so it almost seems 1019 00:43:55,849 --> 00:43:52,350 that you know those little those 1020 00:43:57,260 --> 00:43:55,859 old-school label cloud that you would 1021 00:43:59,300 --> 00:43:57,270 see in old blogs where it's just like a 1022 00:44:01,460 --> 00:43:59,310 bunch of labels is the word clouds yeah 1023 00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:01,470 and they're all sort of just revolving 1024 00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,190 around each other 1025 00:44:06,940 --> 00:44:04,560 yeah like orbiting each other you know 1026 00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:06,950 you can picture that it's very circa 1027 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:10,560 2002 imagery there that's how this stuff 1028 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:13,050 all seems to work now let me get back to 1029 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:14,640 this because I think this is important 1030 00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:16,770 because everyone's seen that cover of 1031 00:44:21,859 --> 00:44:19,380 The Economist that whole idea of that 1032 00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:21,869 the world currency will be called the 1033 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:24,630 Phoenix and whatnot I actually believe 1034 00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:27,930 now that the Phoenix and by extension 1035 00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:29,280 been new okay 1036 00:44:33,590 --> 00:44:32,040 Danu and let's and I'll bring this all 1037 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:33,600 full circle for you in a moment but I 1038 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:36,090 believe that the Phoenix is also Lyra 1039 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:40,170 and the reason being is because I've 1040 00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:42,330 seen a lot of depictions of the Phoenix 1041 00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:46,420 and alchemical Maps 1042 00:44:50,910 --> 00:44:49,000 texts and star maps and all these kind 1043 00:44:53,220 --> 00:44:50,920 of things and it's the depiction of is 1044 00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:53,230 very similar to Lyra where it's almost 1045 00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:55,030 like an eagle with like a vultures neck 1046 00:44:59,490 --> 00:44:57,760 it's a very strange looking bird and if 1047 00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,500 you go to that Great Seal post you'll 1048 00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:02,319 see that exactly and I believe and I 1049 00:45:07,049 --> 00:45:05,140 don't know how exactly yeah anyone would 1050 00:45:11,130 --> 00:45:07,059 have known this but I believe that the 1051 00:45:13,859 --> 00:45:11,140 flame the fire that was associated with 1052 00:45:15,329 --> 00:45:13,869 the Phoenix again is that nebula because 1053 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:15,339 that you know nebula is basically part 1054 00:45:20,730 --> 00:45:17,530 of a stellar explosion and then 1055 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:20,740 something new rises from that right when 1056 00:45:26,609 --> 00:45:24,010 there's a stellar explosion the gases 1057 00:45:28,170 --> 00:45:26,619 over thousands of years and so on and so 1058 00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:28,180 forth you know they'll collect and then 1059 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:30,790 congeal into new planets you know so on 1060 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:32,410 and so forth I mean it's the whole thing 1061 00:45:40,049 --> 00:45:35,770 in astronomy but I definitely believe 1062 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:40,059 that the Phoenix is Lyra and I don't 1063 00:45:44,910 --> 00:45:42,650 know why but it is 1064 00:45:48,789 --> 00:45:44,920 okay so let's just talk about this 1065 00:45:52,660 --> 00:45:48,799 Esiason for a moment Osiris was also 1066 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:52,670 associated with Orion okay I mean you 1067 00:45:56,019 --> 00:45:53,930 know about the shafts and the Great 1068 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:56,029 Pyramid and how they align at a certain 1069 00:46:01,599 --> 00:45:59,599 point in prehistory or something with 1070 00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:01,609 the belt of Orion yes and that there's 1071 00:46:08,380 --> 00:46:04,240 this whole mythology and symbolism that 1072 00:46:10,299 --> 00:46:08,390 of cyrus doesn't just descend into space 1073 00:46:12,910 --> 00:46:10,309 he ascends to Orion 1074 00:46:15,730 --> 00:46:12,920 okay so then we have Orion and then we 1075 00:46:18,670 --> 00:46:15,740 have been new and been new is sort of 1076 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:18,680 the precursor to the greco-roman Phoenix 1077 00:46:25,329 --> 00:46:20,690 idea so it all starts with the Benno 1078 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:25,339 and eventually becomes what we're more 1079 00:46:28,980 --> 00:46:27,170 familiar with in mythology as being the 1080 00:46:30,670 --> 00:46:28,990 Phoenix so what are we seeing here 1081 00:46:35,380 --> 00:46:30,680 exactly what I've been talking about 1082 00:46:38,109 --> 00:46:35,390 we're seeing Orion rendezvous in little 1083 00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,119 IRA Dennison I'm saying because if you 1084 00:46:41,529 --> 00:46:39,920 look at those illustrations and there's 1085 00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:41,539 plenty you can see online and you can 1086 00:46:46,029 --> 00:46:43,849 see how this seems to be almost like an 1087 00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:46,039 esoteric or clandestine understanding 1088 00:46:54,050 --> 00:46:49,190 that the Phoenix was somehow describing 1089 00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:54,060 Lyra when we see this 1090 00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:56,190 rendezvous in space you know on 1091 00:47:00,110 --> 00:46:57,960 September 11th of course because what 1092 00:47:02,210 --> 00:47:00,120 other day would it possibly have been 1093 00:47:03,470 --> 00:47:02,220 said to be discovered you know this is 1094 00:47:05,870 --> 00:47:03,480 this object that they claimed to 1095 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:05,880 discover on September 11th 1999 and 1096 00:47:10,250 --> 00:47:08,250 there's a 29 or this the 999 that we 1097 00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:10,260 spoke about before yeah you know they 1098 00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:12,390 keep seeing still to this day I mean I 1099 00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:14,790 keep seeing these 99s and twenty-seventh 1100 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:15,720 and so on and so forth 1101 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:19,050 but I really believe that this mission 1102 00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:22,530 if in fact it even exists is some sort 1103 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:26,670 of symbolic recognition of the twinning 1104 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:30,720 of Lyra and Orion I don't know why I 1105 00:47:34,670 --> 00:47:33,210 haven't gotten there yet you know we can 1106 00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,680 talk about in six months when I figure 1107 00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:37,680 it out but again I just keep seeing it 1108 00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:40,380 over and over and over again and there 1109 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:42,540 it is but the interesting thing as well 1110 00:47:48,170 --> 00:47:44,970 is that Orion you know it's in the same 1111 00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:48,180 neighborhood as a radness and the 1112 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:50,790 radness is the super void and lyre is 1113 00:47:56,450 --> 00:47:53,520 more sort of on the other side that's 1114 00:47:59,780 --> 00:47:56,460 more in the neighborhood of Draco but 1115 00:48:02,630 --> 00:47:59,790 also Cygnus now the Kepler mission the 1116 00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,640 Kepler space satellite where has it been 1117 00:48:06,590 --> 00:48:04,800 focused for however many years 15 years 1118 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:06,600 or so I don't not exactly sure in the 1119 00:48:10,850 --> 00:48:08,130 chronology here when that mission was 1120 00:48:12,650 --> 00:48:10,860 said to go up they say it's focused on 1121 00:48:18,260 --> 00:48:12,660 Cygnus but it's actually focused on the 1122 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:18,270 space between Cygnus and Lyra okay so 1123 00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:20,490 that's very interesting to them and this 1124 00:48:24,170 --> 00:48:22,590 has been a whole history of very strange 1125 00:48:26,090 --> 00:48:24,180 and interesting discoveries that they've 1126 00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:26,100 claimed to have made in that 1127 00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:29,880 neighborhood between Cygnus and Lyra and 1128 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:33,150 I know this is controversial but for 1129 00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:36,570 instance Andrew Collins I don't know if 1130 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:38,700 you've had him on the show yet but Indra 1131 00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:41,010 Collins claims that the alignment of the 1132 00:48:46,670 --> 00:48:42,660 great pyramids actually is not a Ryan 1133 00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:46,680 but it's actually Cygnus so I don't know 1134 00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:48,510 but also what was found in that 1135 00:48:52,850 --> 00:48:50,460 neighborhood was tabby star now if you 1136 00:48:55,220 --> 00:48:52,860 don't know what tabby star is again it's 1137 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:55,230 great controversy surrounding this whole 1138 00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,330 situation but tabby star is the star 1139 00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,800 that they believe has a Dyson Sphere 1140 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:00,720 built around it or some astronomers 1141 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:02,850 believe that because it keeps dimming 1142 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:05,130 and it shouldn't be you know they're not 1143 00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:08,010 exactly sure why the star 1144 00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:10,560 to be losing light and some people have 1145 00:49:15,470 --> 00:49:13,110 argued that you have a type 3 1146 00:49:18,410 --> 00:49:15,480 civilization so to speak here what's 1147 00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,420 called an interstellar civilization that 1148 00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:20,640 have mastered the processes of the 1149 00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:23,280 cosmos and they're building this Dyson 1150 00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:26,280 Sphere over the star in order to harness 1151 00:49:32,690 --> 00:49:29,220 its energy but at the same time I 1152 00:49:36,050 --> 00:49:32,700 believe very very strongly that the 1153 00:49:40,850 --> 00:49:36,060 supernova in Dorado and the Large 1154 00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:40,860 Magellanic Cloud back in 1987 if you 1155 00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:43,110 look at that it looks like no supernova 1156 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:45,060 you've ever seen it's geometric it's 1157 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:48,690 symmetrical and it's basically a string 1158 00:49:54,410 --> 00:49:51,810 of pearls around what looks like a ruby 1159 00:49:55,850 --> 00:49:54,420 and if anybody remembers my last 1160 00:49:57,170 --> 00:49:55,860 appearance on your show and you hear 1161 00:49:58,100 --> 00:49:57,180 that the whole thing with string of 1162 00:50:00,140 --> 00:49:58,110 pearls and rubies 1163 00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,150 what connotation you're gonna have with 1164 00:50:06,260 --> 00:50:02,400 that I mean we can leave that be for now 1165 00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:06,270 but I really believe that is immense 1166 00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:08,940 significance attached to this I'm not 1167 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:12,540 exactly sure why but I think that it 1168 00:50:15,950 --> 00:50:14,370 explains these rituals but then again 1169 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:15,960 let's 1170 00:50:22,730 --> 00:50:19,050 it up and now I want to go there I mean 1171 00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:22,740 what if they are expecting visitors 1172 00:50:26,660 --> 00:50:25,140 they're expecting visitors and I've had 1173 00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:26,670 this conversation with Gordon a number 1174 00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:27,990 of times you know we've sort of had this 1175 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:30,780 like mental experiment so to speak it's 1176 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:32,250 like this thought experiment it's like 1177 00:50:42,590 --> 00:50:36,290 what if the world was being colonized by 1178 00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:42,600 a distant galaxy or star system some 1179 00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:46,800 sort of alien race that is immeasurably 1180 00:50:52,850 --> 00:50:50,030 more advanced than us but he's 1181 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:52,860 piggybacking on the technology that they 1182 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:54,810 may have originally ceded to us back 1183 00:51:00,680 --> 00:50:58,170 after World War two to beam over there 1184 00:51:05,930 --> 00:51:00,690 see their genetic information and their 1185 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:05,940 technology and their a is like like two 1186 00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:07,770 sides of a Stargate like you've got to 1187 00:51:13,460 --> 00:51:10,080 build something over there for us to get 1188 00:51:15,050 --> 00:51:13,470 to you and overtake you exactly but if 1189 00:51:16,850 --> 00:51:15,060 you make that proposition how would 1190 00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:16,860 anything that was seeing really look 1191 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:18,900 different you know I'm saying because 1192 00:51:22,930 --> 00:51:20,730 you know we're talking about quantum 1193 00:51:26,690 --> 00:51:22,940 computing now we're talking about 1194 00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:26,700 extraordinarily advanced AI there's the 1195 00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:30,660 whole deal with CERN what if this is a 1196 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:31,920 thought experiment here 1197 00:51:41,110 --> 00:51:36,170 what if technology had been ceded to us 1198 00:51:45,130 --> 00:51:41,120 seventy years ago in order to make 1199 00:51:47,259 --> 00:51:45,140 the world more conducive 1200 00:51:49,150 --> 00:51:47,269 to their arrival you know what I'm 1201 00:51:52,059 --> 00:51:49,160 saying so it's like we need to get our 1202 00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:52,069 technology not necessarily up to par 1203 00:51:56,140 --> 00:51:54,049 with this but so they can operate here 1204 00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:56,150 you know we need to build these massive 1205 00:52:01,000 --> 00:51:58,130 computers and so on and so forth but we 1206 00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,010 also need to build these enormously 1207 00:52:06,220 --> 00:52:03,440 powerful telescopes and these orbital 1208 00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:06,230 telescopes that can basically receive 1209 00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:09,049 light transmissions you know neutrinos 1210 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:12,380 or cosmic rays that they're encoded some 1211 00:52:16,990 --> 00:52:15,049 sort of lasers perhaps interstellar 1212 00:52:19,450 --> 00:52:17,000 lasers that are encoded in which 1213 00:52:21,220 --> 00:52:19,460 information for genetics are encoded 1214 00:52:23,019 --> 00:52:21,230 because just think about it if you were 1215 00:52:25,660 --> 00:52:23,029 a truly advanced civilization and you 1216 00:52:27,339 --> 00:52:25,670 wanted to travel to another planet how 1217 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:27,349 would you choose to get there would you 1218 00:52:32,799 --> 00:52:29,450 like get in your friggin tin cans in 1219 00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:32,809 your cat-food tins and risk a thousand 1220 00:52:39,089 --> 00:52:35,510 years in deep space or would you just 1221 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:39,099 figure out a way to bypass that by 1222 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:43,490 transmitting your technology and find 1223 00:52:48,190 --> 00:52:46,130 sort of a pre technological civilization 1224 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:48,200 or proto technological civilization 1225 00:52:52,829 --> 00:52:50,089 somebody who's sort of getting there 1226 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:52,839 somebody's sort of on the way and 1227 00:52:57,069 --> 00:52:55,130 download some information to one of 1228 00:52:59,799 --> 00:52:57,079 their primitive computers that they can 1229 00:53:02,890 --> 00:52:59,809 then use to build more elaborate 1230 00:53:06,730 --> 00:53:02,900 computers more sophisticated computers 1231 00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:06,740 that will make it easier for you to get 1232 00:53:11,140 --> 00:53:08,900 your information transmitted over there 1233 00:53:13,779 --> 00:53:11,150 and in turn get your genetics 1234 00:53:15,819 --> 00:53:13,789 transferred over there now interesting 1235 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:15,829 thing about that is you know okay that's 1236 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:19,490 a great science fiction kind of premise 1237 00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:20,690 right and I believe that they have been 1238 00:53:25,390 --> 00:53:23,960 I believe there was that threshold TV 1239 00:53:26,859 --> 00:53:25,400 series was sort of something along the 1240 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:26,869 lines of that and there was a comic book 1241 00:53:31,569 --> 00:53:28,730 by Warren Ellis prior to that called 1242 00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:31,579 global frequency so just make that 1243 00:53:35,019 --> 00:53:33,529 assumption that you know how would that 1244 00:53:37,210 --> 00:53:35,029 look any different than what's going on 1245 00:53:40,539 --> 00:53:37,220 today because now what we're seeing the 1246 00:53:44,019 --> 00:53:40,549 whole idea of natural birth is being 1247 00:53:47,499 --> 00:53:44,029 completely usurped is being completely 1248 00:53:50,140 --> 00:53:47,509 subverted and so you can have babies 1249 00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:50,150 with three parents three male parents 1250 00:53:54,099 --> 00:53:52,609 three female parents you know you can 1251 00:53:56,980 --> 00:53:54,109 have somebody give birth to their own 1252 00:53:58,690 --> 00:53:56,990 child you create eggs from their cheek 1253 00:54:00,940 --> 00:53:58,700 scrapings and 1254 00:54:03,610 --> 00:54:00,950 sperm from their hair you're seeing 1255 00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:03,620 articles now talking about like anybody 1256 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:05,390 can have a baby whenever they want I 1257 00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:07,130 mean I saw that exact phrase being used 1258 00:54:10,450 --> 00:54:09,200 in an article and futurism and there's 1259 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:10,460 this you know what they call the birth 1260 00:54:16,270 --> 00:54:12,650 bag now which is like an artificial womb 1261 00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,280 so if you can just a zygote and once it 1262 00:54:22,210 --> 00:54:19,040 falls into that embryonic stage you can 1263 00:54:24,490 --> 00:54:22,220 transfer that into one of these birth 1264 00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,500 bags which is basically a plastic bag 1265 00:54:29,350 --> 00:54:26,960 with amniotic fluid in it and they've 1266 00:54:31,900 --> 00:54:29,360 been raising livestock like this we're 1267 00:54:34,810 --> 00:54:31,910 seeing the clones now I noticed you had 1268 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:34,820 mentioned that giant bowl we're seeing 1269 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:37,850 all these animals being engineered to be 1270 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:40,250 just grotesquely muscular not just cows 1271 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:42,890 but pigs so if you look at everything 1272 00:54:47,580 --> 00:54:44,450 that's been going on particularly going 1273 00:54:53,770 --> 00:54:47,590 on you know now in the age of five G and 1274 00:54:55,300 --> 00:54:53,780 AI and CERN and d-wave these are 1275 00:54:58,270 --> 00:54:55,310 technologies that no-one could even 1276 00:55:00,850 --> 00:54:58,280 begin to have conceived back in the 40s 1277 00:55:02,290 --> 00:55:00,860 now these people in the 40s we're not 1278 00:55:04,030 --> 00:55:02,300 stupid these people were extremely 1279 00:55:05,860 --> 00:55:04,040 bright and they were doing all that 1280 00:55:07,780 --> 00:55:05,870 calculations on paper you know I'm 1281 00:55:10,060 --> 00:55:07,790 saying it's like these are guys who were 1282 00:55:12,850 --> 00:55:10,070 like doing advanced particle physics 1283 00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:12,860 with a pencil and a paper so they 1284 00:55:16,780 --> 00:55:14,390 weren't dumb they were probably smarter 1285 00:55:18,610 --> 00:55:16,790 than most of our scientists today but 1286 00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:18,620 they could never conceive of any of the 1287 00:55:23,980 --> 00:55:21,200 stuff maybe I similar more diluted 1288 00:55:26,890 --> 00:55:23,990 science fiction writers could but we are 1289 00:55:29,950 --> 00:55:26,900 becoming so acclimated and so accustomed 1290 00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:29,960 to what 10 years ago would have been 1291 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:32,510 this complete science fiction is now 1292 00:55:37,630 --> 00:55:35,090 reality and it's really rather stunning 1293 00:55:41,470 --> 00:55:37,640 the CRISPR thing is really sort of 1294 00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:41,480 kicked open Pandora's box you're hearing 1295 00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:43,310 a lot of talk well let's get rid of all 1296 00:55:47,260 --> 00:55:45,470 the mosquitoes well how do you get rid 1297 00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:47,270 of all the mosquitoes you engineer 1298 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:50,390 mosquitoes so they only breed men they 1299 00:55:54,010 --> 00:55:53,330 only breed men and they don't breed 1300 00:55:57,220 --> 00:55:54,020 females 1301 00:55:59,890 --> 00:55:57,230 so eventually the entire species will 1302 00:56:00,130 --> 00:55:59,900 die off mm-hmm think about that for a 1303 00:56:01,660 --> 00:56:00,140 while 1304 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:01,670 think about how that sort of maybe 1305 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:03,290 corresponds to things that are going on 1306 00:56:06,970 --> 00:56:05,450 in the world today very interesting and 1307 00:56:08,650 --> 00:56:06,980 you know who's behind that Bill Gates in 1308 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:08,660 Google of course they're behind these 1309 00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:11,920 experiments to eliminate this 1310 00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:14,319 Eidos from the biosphere from the food 1311 00:56:17,789 --> 00:56:16,240 chain now you think well the mosquitoes 1312 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:17,799 are horrible things no their malaria I 1313 00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:20,650 mean untold numbers of deaths throughout 1314 00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:21,760 history have been caused by mosquitoes 1315 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,190 and the diseases that they bring well 1316 00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:26,559 okay that's true but at the same time 1317 00:56:30,539 --> 00:56:28,900 mosquito is extraordinarily important to 1318 00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:30,549 the food chain because there are a lot 1319 00:56:35,309 --> 00:56:32,470 of things that eat them you know there 1320 00:56:38,609 --> 00:56:35,319 are frogs and bats and birds and you 1321 00:56:40,650 --> 00:56:38,619 name it that rely on mosquitoes is their 1322 00:56:42,809 --> 00:56:40,660 food source right so how is that going 1323 00:56:45,089 --> 00:56:42,819 to affect our biosphere you know and now 1324 00:56:46,829 --> 00:56:45,099 this whole idea of like well let the dim 1325 00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:46,839 the Sun it's like this whole mr. Burnes 1326 00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:52,480 idea of spraying these aerosol aluminum 1327 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:55,119 particles aluminum barium strontium yeah 1328 00:56:59,099 --> 00:56:57,490 yeah so it's like oh so you think that 1329 00:57:01,819 --> 00:56:59,109 maybe all these people who are talking 1330 00:57:04,109 --> 00:57:01,829 about chemtrails 20 years ago well maybe 1331 00:57:06,210 --> 00:57:04,119 right you think they just came up with 1332 00:57:07,470 --> 00:57:06,220 this idea well let's just spray barium 1333 00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:07,480 and strontium and all these kind of 1334 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:09,190 things into the upper atmosphere just on 1335 00:57:12,690 --> 00:57:11,410 a lark you know it's like science never 1336 00:57:15,150 --> 00:57:12,700 works like that science always start 1337 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:15,160 small and works their way up so I mean 1338 00:57:19,799 --> 00:57:17,530 I've seen chemtrails a so many people I 1339 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:19,809 know I've seen chemtrails and now it's 1340 00:57:23,819 --> 00:57:22,690 all in the open now Harvard University's 1341 00:57:25,950 --> 00:57:23,829 saying yeah we're gonna do that because 1342 00:57:27,690 --> 00:57:25,960 we want to cool the earth well what are 1343 00:57:30,270 --> 00:57:27,700 you gonna do when you cool the earth at 1344 00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:30,280 the same time that solar activity is you 1345 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:31,359 know what they believe that might be a 1346 00:57:35,099 --> 00:57:33,730 new solar minimum yeah you're basically 1347 00:57:38,010 --> 00:57:35,109 gonna freeze the earth to death you're 1348 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:38,020 gonna destroy our food crops and kill 1349 00:57:43,620 --> 00:57:40,690 off most of the planet so I mean you 1350 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:43,630 know cui bono saying yeah maybe they've 1351 00:57:47,970 --> 00:57:45,609 done that before yeah nobody down here 1352 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:47,980 benefits than that so I don't know I 1353 00:57:52,530 --> 00:57:49,930 mean this is all like really crazy stuff 1354 00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,540 but at the same time I mean you gather 1355 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:54,880 with these considerate you know yes I 1356 00:58:00,089 --> 00:57:57,250 like it and I was just thinking you know 1357 00:58:01,410 --> 00:58:00,099 consider going to Mars as an analogy 1358 00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:01,420 everybody's talking about that 1359 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:03,400 imagine there is some indigenous 1360 00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:05,230 population on Mars and imagine we were 1361 00:58:09,329 --> 00:58:07,119 gonna get there through non-physical 1362 00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:09,339 means somehow like you said somehow send 1363 00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,500 our DNA or something well what could we 1364 00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:13,359 do in advance if we could reach out to 1365 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:14,799 them we could have them prep the 1366 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:16,210 environment it's a kind of a shitty 1367 00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:17,770 environment for us we could have them 1368 00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:19,569 maybe set it up for us a little bit 1369 00:58:24,510 --> 00:58:22,079 better we could make sure we have 1370 00:58:24,990 --> 00:58:24,520 communication tools there once we get 1371 00:58:26,970 --> 00:58:25,000 there 1372 00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,980 having them build maybe telescopes that 1373 00:58:31,230 --> 00:58:28,720 can look back home and that kind of 1374 00:58:34,050 --> 00:58:31,240 thing we would maybe usher in a eugenics 1375 00:58:36,210 --> 00:58:34,060 program for the indigenous population to 1376 00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:36,220 wipe themselves out and maybe we would 1377 00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:37,990 go to their bright minds like their 1378 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:40,720 nikola tesla's and implant ideas in 1379 00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:43,810 their head to bring forth certain 1380 00:58:47,370 --> 00:58:45,640 technologies because a lot of these guys 1381 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:47,380 have said they're getting these messages 1382 00:58:51,210 --> 00:58:49,330 from elsewhere when we think it's 1383 00:58:53,490 --> 00:58:51,220 spirits or maybe we that's our first 1384 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:53,500 go-to but it doesn't have to be 1385 00:58:57,690 --> 00:58:55,930 maybe we're using that maybe they're 1386 00:58:59,520 --> 00:58:57,700 using like some kind of religious 1387 00:59:02,130 --> 00:58:59,530 superstition against us it's like a kind 1388 00:59:03,780 --> 00:59:02,140 of a cargo cult thing and we think it 1389 00:59:05,730 --> 00:59:03,790 might be spirits it might be distant 1390 00:59:07,770 --> 00:59:05,740 aliens who are going to show up here 1391 00:59:10,890 --> 00:59:07,780 eventually it's a far-out thing but I 1392 00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:10,900 mean I'm liking it because spirits are 1393 00:59:15,380 --> 00:59:13,390 so trendy getting back to aliens and 1394 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:15,390 this would be like a non-physical 1395 00:59:20,550 --> 00:59:17,650 transportation mechanism so now what are 1396 00:59:22,170 --> 00:59:20,560 you talking about non-physical aliens 1397 00:59:24,340 --> 00:59:22,180 what's the difference with these 1398 00:59:25,870 --> 00:59:24,350 definitions at this point 1399 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:25,880 well you know one of the things that I 1400 00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:28,730 blogged about and this ties into my 1401 00:59:35,230 --> 00:59:31,520 fixation on the blog that we have people 1402 00:59:37,090 --> 00:59:35,240 in marginal corners of the popular arts 1403 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:37,100 who have foreseen all this somehow 1404 00:59:41,140 --> 00:59:39,170 received information pertaining to this 1405 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:41,150 before the rest of us you know one of 1406 00:59:45,460 --> 00:59:43,490 course is easy as Jack Kirby now Jack 1407 00:59:47,410 --> 00:59:45,470 Kirby at the same time he was doing a 1408 00:59:50,770 --> 00:59:47,420 storyline sort of this epic storyline 1409 00:59:53,950 --> 00:59:50,780 that seemed to uncannily predict the 1410 00:59:55,690 --> 00:59:53,960 Gulf Wars and the trial of Saddam 1411 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:55,700 Hussein and so on and so forth and it 1412 00:59:58,750 --> 00:59:57,170 was something that I blogged on you know 1413 01:00:02,050 --> 00:59:58,760 rather extensively a number of years ago 1414 01:00:06,250 --> 01:00:02,060 I also had a concurrent and parallel 1415 01:00:11,110 --> 01:00:06,260 storyline about this alien who came to 1416 01:00:14,050 --> 01:00:11,120 the planet through a Stargate hmm which 1417 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:14,060 he called the door in Stargate this 1418 01:00:17,740 --> 01:00:16,160 alien was collecting physical objects 1419 01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,750 you know the planet was dying and they 1420 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:19,280 needed matter that they could convert 1421 01:00:24,940 --> 01:00:21,890 into energy because these beings were 1422 01:00:27,460 --> 01:00:24,950 energy beings and they wore suits so 1423 01:00:29,050 --> 01:00:27,470 they could operate in our world you know 1424 01:00:31,570 --> 01:00:29,060 in our dimension in a biosphere they 1425 01:00:32,290 --> 01:00:31,580 needed something to contain their 1426 01:00:35,260 --> 01:00:32,300 essence 1427 01:00:37,690 --> 01:00:35,270 so they used these robotic suits that 1428 01:00:39,370 --> 01:00:37,700 they could operate and gather up matter 1429 01:00:42,130 --> 01:00:39,380 I mean it was just like anything was 1430 01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:42,140 like you know skyscrapers and the Statue 1431 01:00:46,060 --> 01:00:44,870 of Liberty and freight trains you know 1432 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:46,070 just anything that they could get their 1433 01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:48,410 hands on because they needed that for 1434 01:00:53,410 --> 01:00:51,440 the energy so what happens is that one 1435 01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:53,420 of these beings is stranded here on this 1436 01:00:59,860 --> 01:00:56,720 planet and it has the spaceship this 1437 01:01:03,310 --> 01:00:59,870 flying saucer that you know she it turns 1438 01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:03,320 out to be a she had used to operate in 1439 01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:07,760 our dimension and she instructs two 1440 01:01:12,010 --> 01:01:09,680 earthlings one of which is a ant with a 1441 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:12,020 market dog and what is a human to 1442 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:14,450 operate the machinery so she can create 1443 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:19,490 a body for herself using the humans DNA 1444 01:01:25,690 --> 01:01:22,850 and it's interesting because she uses 1445 01:01:28,180 --> 01:01:25,700 the humans DNA and becomes a she becomes 1446 01:01:29,950 --> 01:01:28,190 a woman but meanwhile I mean it was a 1447 01:01:31,660 --> 01:01:29,960 ball of energy he had no gender so 1448 01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:31,670 that's kind of interesting in the 1449 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:33,310 context of 1450 01:01:37,230 --> 01:01:35,170 recent social trends and so on and so 1451 01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,240 forth but anyway the name of the story 1452 01:01:40,860 --> 01:01:39,280 was the birth bag and that always stuck 1453 01:01:42,750 --> 01:01:40,870 with me the birth day because what are 1454 01:01:45,180 --> 01:01:42,760 we seeing now everywhere is these birth 1455 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:45,190 bags and we of course last year at the 1456 01:01:51,390 --> 01:01:49,210 e3 show in Las Vegas when Netflix was 1457 01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:51,400 promoting this series altered carbon 1458 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:53,950 they had these lifelike mannequins and 1459 01:01:59,730 --> 01:01:56,530 these giant plastic bags so it's just 1460 01:02:02,100 --> 01:01:59,740 like well if you can use human DNA I 1461 01:02:05,850 --> 01:02:02,110 mean this is being openly talked about 1462 01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:05,860 you know it's like introducing something 1463 01:02:08,430 --> 01:02:06,310 else 1464 01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:08,440 this whole thing with transgenics and so 1465 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:10,720 on and so forth and of course this gets 1466 01:02:14,570 --> 01:02:12,250 back to our thought experiment well what 1467 01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:14,580 if you know all this is leading towards 1468 01:02:19,290 --> 01:02:17,740 somebody's beaming the genome into our 1469 01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:19,300 biosphere they can't breathe our air 1470 01:02:24,230 --> 01:02:21,280 they can't deal with our disease and so 1471 01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:24,240 on and so forth so they need to take our 1472 01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:27,280 genetic information to build new bodies 1473 01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:28,870 for themselves in which they can operate 1474 01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:33,670 and if you sort of go back in Egyptian 1475 01:02:39,060 --> 01:02:36,340 mythology there was this whole idea that 1476 01:02:42,690 --> 01:02:39,070 the Egyptian gods were exactly that they 1477 01:02:47,130 --> 01:02:42,700 were basically energy beings that used 1478 01:02:50,970 --> 01:02:47,140 human bodies as incarnation 'el tools in 1479 01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:50,980 order that they could survive in a 1480 01:02:54,810 --> 01:02:53,830 biosphere again if you go back and read 1481 01:02:57,870 --> 01:02:54,820 some of the Sumerian and Babylonian 1482 01:02:59,970 --> 01:02:57,880 mythologies they're talking like very 1483 01:03:02,670 --> 01:02:59,980 matter-of-factly about the gods that 1484 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:02,680 they're interacting with basically the 1485 01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:04,210 way you and I would interact with 1486 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:06,760 anybody it's rather matter-of-fact you 1487 01:03:12,030 --> 01:03:09,970 know it's not like oh you know the 1488 01:03:13,770 --> 01:03:12,040 heavens opened up and I saw Ishtar going 1489 01:03:14,850 --> 01:03:13,780 to the post office it's like no you saw 1490 01:03:16,620 --> 01:03:14,860 it you're struggling the post office 1491 01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:16,630 because that's what you did that's how 1492 01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:19,840 she operated in our world it was very 1493 01:03:27,030 --> 01:03:23,520 common and it was taken for granted 1494 01:03:29,730 --> 01:03:27,040 again I don't know is that what we're 1495 01:03:31,140 --> 01:03:29,740 going to be seeing in the future if I 1496 01:03:33,060 --> 01:03:31,150 was going to take everything that's 1497 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:33,070 going on now and really compose a 1498 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:35,290 science fictional epic around it that's 1499 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:36,850 exactly the conclusion that was come to 1500 01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:39,130 let's just say that but I think I want 1501 01:03:41,580 --> 01:03:40,480 to get back to in light of this whole 1502 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:41,590 ridiculous 1503 01:03:49,690 --> 01:03:45,530 osiris-rex and venom situation 1504 01:03:52,330 --> 01:03:49,700 no like I said both Lyra and Orion 1505 01:03:53,770 --> 01:03:52,340 what's the link well maybe the link is 1506 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:53,780 that they both associated with the 1507 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:55,850 Fallen Angels and the Fallen Angels 1508 01:04:04,750 --> 01:03:57,370 being 1509 01:04:06,490 --> 01:04:04,760 incarnation and took wives and created 1510 01:04:10,350 --> 01:04:06,500 offspring and so on and so forth 1511 01:04:12,370 --> 01:04:10,360 so again I mean this could all just be 1512 01:04:13,690 --> 01:04:12,380 fantasy this could all be like some 1513 01:04:15,370 --> 01:04:13,700 weird delusion that a bunch of really 1514 01:04:17,410 --> 01:04:15,380 rich people are playing out I don't know 1515 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:17,420 but I'm just telling you what the 1516 01:04:22,030 --> 01:04:19,370 symbolism is telling me and it seems to 1517 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:22,040 be pretty consistent narrative right 1518 01:04:26,140 --> 01:04:24,050 it's just two different lenses it's like 1519 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:26,150 you have the religious lens of angels 1520 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:28,610 coming down and main with people and you 1521 01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:30,410 have the sci-fi narrative that's 1522 01:04:36,010 --> 01:04:32,390 basically the same thing 1523 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:36,020 it is pretty wild yeah well you know the 1524 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:37,850 other thing too is that before we had 1525 01:04:41,350 --> 01:04:39,290 begun this interview we were talking 1526 01:04:43,450 --> 01:04:41,360 about psychedelic research and 1527 01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:43,460 everything and I always think back to 1528 01:04:49,690 --> 01:04:46,640 Rick Strassman and the DMT research that 1529 01:04:52,990 --> 01:04:49,700 he was undertaking he stopped doing it 1530 01:04:54,550 --> 01:04:53,000 because he realized that everyone was 1531 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:54,560 reporting you know people who didn't 1532 01:04:56,500 --> 01:04:55,730 know each other people from different 1533 01:04:58,510 --> 01:04:56,510 walks of life 1534 01:05:00,850 --> 01:04:58,520 you know just random test subjects were 1535 01:05:02,020 --> 01:05:00,860 reporting the same experience and they 1536 01:05:03,970 --> 01:05:02,030 all seemed to be reporting these 1537 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:03,980 encounters with these malevolent beings 1538 01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:06,050 or at least these beings that didn't 1539 01:05:10,270 --> 01:05:07,760 seem to like us very much that we're 1540 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:10,280 trying to get into our reality and 1541 01:05:17,110 --> 01:05:14,330 that's what inspired him to stop so it's 1542 01:05:19,930 --> 01:05:17,120 just like I don't know one thing that 1543 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:19,940 I've blogged about very early on you 1544 01:05:24,580 --> 01:05:21,770 know when I was very sick had a very 1545 01:05:27,490 --> 01:05:24,590 high fever and basically my living room 1546 01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:27,500 turned into another reality and there 1547 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:29,510 was a friggin leprechaun sitting in the 1548 01:05:35,470 --> 01:05:32,330 middle of the room screaming at me in 1549 01:05:36,910 --> 01:05:35,480 some language I didn't understand okay 1550 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:36,920 so I was sick and it's heaven of the 1551 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:38,810 nation blah blah blah this guy said well 1552 01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:39,970 the thing is is that it was 1553 01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:42,710 extraordinarily real you know it had 1554 01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:44,660 weight it had sound it was just like 1555 01:05:50,020 --> 01:05:48,110 it's stuck with me when I would hear 1556 01:05:53,140 --> 01:05:50,030 people like Graham Hancock talking about 1557 01:05:55,180 --> 01:05:53,150 some of the ayahuasca shamans down 1558 01:05:57,940 --> 01:05:55,190 Central America and so on they would 1559 01:05:58,769 --> 01:05:57,950 have essentially identical experiences 1560 01:06:00,239 --> 01:05:58,779 to that 1561 01:06:02,339 --> 01:06:00,249 and I had actually spoken in Graham 1562 01:06:04,469 --> 01:06:02,349 Hancock after his presentation and I 1563 01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:04,479 told about that experience so said well 1564 01:06:09,659 --> 01:06:06,880 yeah I mean said beaver is one of the 1565 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:09,669 things that can light up those dmt 1566 01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:12,130 circuits in your brain so what does that 1567 01:06:18,089 --> 01:06:15,249 mean so it's like somehow I always 1568 01:06:22,049 --> 01:06:18,099 transported into this identical reality 1569 01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:22,059 of people who took ayahuasca or DMT or 1570 01:06:25,859 --> 01:06:24,609 reporting so what does that mean this is 1571 01:06:28,409 --> 01:06:25,869 what I'm saying you can't say well it's 1572 01:06:30,749 --> 01:06:28,419 aliens or it's spirits like this it's 1573 01:06:32,609 --> 01:06:30,759 that it's like we don't know and it 1574 01:06:35,279 --> 01:06:32,619 could be like some sort of weird 1575 01:06:36,899 --> 01:06:35,289 confluence of all the above and the 1576 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:36,909 thing is that like if you came into 1577 01:06:39,929 --> 01:06:38,650 contact with that and you had no real 1578 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:39,939 frame of reference for what you were 1579 01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:41,890 encountering how are you going to 1580 01:06:48,149 --> 01:06:46,329 perceive that you have no idea so I am 1581 01:06:49,289 --> 01:06:48,159 very much in all the above guy because 1582 01:06:51,719 --> 01:06:49,299 you got to keep your options open 1583 01:06:54,089 --> 01:06:51,729 because we just simply don't know right 1584 01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:54,099 and all this stuff we're talking about I 1585 01:06:57,419 --> 01:06:56,079 mean even though we are speculating 1586 01:07:00,059 --> 01:06:57,429 about the idea that there might have 1587 01:07:02,399 --> 01:07:00,069 been something that did get in that got 1588 01:07:05,329 --> 01:07:02,409 into a position of power and maybe took 1589 01:07:08,429 --> 01:07:05,339 over and that's what's driving our 1590 01:07:10,499 --> 01:07:08,439 culture and our politics I mean even 1591 01:07:12,809 --> 01:07:10,509 from Egyptian pharaohs right on up to 1592 01:07:14,370 --> 01:07:12,819 today bloodlines have always been so 1593 01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:14,380 important it's a component you can't 1594 01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:16,329 dismiss with royal families and all that 1595 01:07:20,279 --> 01:07:18,249 what were they really about there's a 1596 01:07:22,439 --> 01:07:20,289 lot of Mythology about Alexander the 1597 01:07:25,019 --> 01:07:22,449 Great being Nani having a nonhuman 1598 01:07:28,049 --> 01:07:25,029 origin like what are they talking about 1599 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:28,059 so I mean it's not super crazy 1600 01:07:32,849 --> 01:07:29,890 speculation because it's not like our 1601 01:07:35,149 --> 01:07:32,859 planet's elite for hundreds of years if 1602 01:07:37,349 --> 01:07:35,159 not more haven't been obsessed with 1603 01:07:39,209 --> 01:07:37,359 bloodlines and making sure they know 1604 01:07:40,649 --> 01:07:39,219 where everyone came from and that kind 1605 01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:40,659 of stuff it's right there in the soup 1606 01:07:45,179 --> 01:07:44,049 yeah oh it goes back forever and of 1607 01:07:47,899 --> 01:07:45,189 course I mean there's been a lot of 1608 01:07:52,099 --> 01:07:47,909 speculation and sort of interesting 1609 01:07:54,299 --> 01:07:52,109 literature about DNA and blood line and 1610 01:07:56,489 --> 01:07:54,309 I've mentioned of course the dragon 1611 01:07:59,249 --> 01:07:56,499 bloodline and the origin of the dragon 1612 01:08:00,479 --> 01:07:59,259 bloodline is extraterrestrial and you 1613 01:08:03,089 --> 01:08:00,489 know Whitley Strieber had the hunger 1614 01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:03,099 series and the vampires fed off our 1615 01:08:06,989 --> 01:08:04,809 blood because they are extraterrestrials 1616 01:08:10,019 --> 01:08:06,999 who needed our genetic material to stay 1617 01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:10,029 incarnated in our reality so yeah I mean 1618 01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:12,190 there's a lot of this stuff about so 1619 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:14,319 in the science-fictional realm and 1620 01:08:19,110 --> 01:08:15,970 definitely the power political and 1621 01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:19,120 speculative and alt media realm I mean 1622 01:08:23,820 --> 01:08:20,440 it's all out there the thing that 1623 01:08:25,919 --> 01:08:23,830 fascinates me is that very slowly I li 1624 01:08:30,260 --> 01:08:25,929 and through insinuation all this 1625 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:30,270 information seems to be in the science 1626 01:08:36,059 --> 01:08:33,690 pages you know the science websites and 1627 01:08:39,630 --> 01:08:36,069 you know it's like I'm reading all this 1628 01:08:41,309 --> 01:08:39,640 stuff that was science fiction and not 1629 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:41,319 only science fiction but really weird 1630 01:08:47,539 --> 01:08:44,170 sort of you know marginal science 1631 01:08:51,209 --> 01:08:47,549 fiction not so long ago and is now 1632 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:51,219 mainstream news you know one of the 1633 01:08:54,539 --> 01:08:52,810 things I do talk about not to talk about 1634 01:08:57,630 --> 01:08:54,549 for a very long time is what I call 1635 01:08:59,490 --> 01:08:57,640 x-files reality and now that you see 1636 01:09:02,700 --> 01:08:59,500 like the trying to weaponize bees to 1637 01:09:04,289 --> 01:09:02,710 carry viruses it's like wait I think I 1638 01:09:06,660 --> 01:09:04,299 saw that episode you know it's like 1639 01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:06,670 there's so many things showing up in the 1640 01:09:12,539 --> 01:09:09,759 news in the mainstream news that seemed 1641 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:12,549 to be straight out of x-files episodes 1642 01:09:18,269 --> 01:09:15,130 mm-hmm so is it the chicken or the egg 1643 01:09:19,919 --> 01:09:18,279 I mean what is inspiring what I can't 1644 01:09:21,450 --> 01:09:19,929 say for sure but I can't say that I do 1645 01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,460 know for a fact that Chris Carter is 1646 01:09:24,959 --> 01:09:23,199 extremely connected and he's very 1647 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:24,969 connected with a lot of people in the 1648 01:09:29,370 --> 01:09:27,370 quote-unquote deep state and Dean 1649 01:09:32,430 --> 01:09:29,380 Haglund who played when the lone gunman 1650 01:09:34,860 --> 01:09:32,440 has always said that he knew for a fact 1651 01:09:37,289 --> 01:09:34,870 that CIA people were always hanging 1652 01:09:40,079 --> 01:09:37,299 around the set and given Chris Carter 1653 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:40,089 story ideas and I actually had spoken to 1654 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:42,730 one former intelligence agent who said 1655 01:09:47,519 --> 01:09:44,650 that he likes the x-files but he only 1656 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:47,529 likes the mythology or the colonization 1657 01:09:53,370 --> 01:09:50,650 storyline because that's nonfiction so 1658 01:09:55,470 --> 01:09:53,380 it's just like whoa okay well I guess 1659 01:09:57,300 --> 01:09:55,480 that explains why things that were 1660 01:10:00,330 --> 01:09:57,310 science fiction 20 years ago and now 1661 01:10:03,090 --> 01:10:00,340 showing up in the New York Times in this 1662 01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:03,100 science section so I mean it's actually 1663 01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:05,350 rather astonishing but again you know if 1664 01:10:09,419 --> 01:10:06,820 you go back to the sort of mental 1665 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:09,429 exercises thought experiments that I'm 1666 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:11,730 talking about 1667 01:10:15,290 --> 01:10:13,890 Gordon who's a lot smarter than I'll 1668 01:10:18,010 --> 01:10:15,300 ever be you know he definitely agrees 1669 01:10:20,959 --> 01:10:18,020 with me that if you were going to 1670 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:20,969 apposite a world that was being slowly 1671 01:10:26,689 --> 01:10:23,370 methodically and relentlessly colonized 1672 01:10:29,780 --> 01:10:26,699 by an external agency by an 1673 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:29,790 extraterrestrial agency so to speak it 1674 01:10:33,050 --> 01:10:31,410 wouldn't probably look much different 1675 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:33,060 than what everything was seeing today 1676 01:10:37,610 --> 01:10:34,530 you know I mean there's definitely an 1677 01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:37,620 effort to at least bring upon like the 1678 01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:41,280 Gattaca eugenics reality you know people 1679 01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:42,840 were bringing up in genex quite a bit 1680 01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:45,360 when this whole idea of the CRISPR 1681 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:48,000 babies and of course they were twins the 1682 01:10:52,729 --> 01:10:50,250 Chris betweens angina was hitting this 1683 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:52,739 the the news and then that guy goes 1684 01:10:58,100 --> 01:10:56,370 missing and then China bans the practice 1685 01:11:01,550 --> 01:10:58,110 and then you know we see these articles 1686 01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:01,560 about how shoddy the science was and so 1687 01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,360 on and so forth and my question was all 1688 01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:05,340 I can think of as the teaser the opening 1689 01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:07,199 of I am Legend you know this one was 1690 01:11:10,729 --> 01:11:09,120 like oh hey I cured cancer and you know 1691 01:11:13,610 --> 01:11:10,739 five years later or whatever I'd like 1692 01:11:14,990 --> 01:11:13,620 the entire world is dead our zombies you 1693 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:15,000 know so it's like okay we're going to 1694 01:11:19,490 --> 01:11:17,489 turn off the genome that makes people 1695 01:11:21,140 --> 01:11:19,500 susceptible to AIDS and to these other 1696 01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:21,150 sort of retroviruses and everything like 1697 01:11:24,740 --> 01:11:22,800 that well what were repercussions are 1698 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:24,750 they have it's like every action has an 1699 01:11:30,140 --> 01:11:27,090 opposite and equal reaction so if you 1700 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:30,150 turn off that part of the immune system 1701 01:11:35,959 --> 01:11:32,610 that makes us susceptible to something 1702 01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,969 like AIDS and I'm not even sure why AIDS 1703 01:11:39,169 --> 01:11:37,679 would be an issue at this point in time 1704 01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:39,179 given you know the retro vials and 1705 01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:43,110 whatnot once that releases itself into 1706 01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:45,120 the greater environment how is that 1707 01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:48,719 going to affect us we hear about certain 1708 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:51,360 antibiotics create antibiotic resistance 1709 01:11:55,850 --> 01:11:54,330 right basically what the antibiotics 1710 01:11:59,740 --> 01:11:55,860 will do is that they'll kill off the 1711 01:12:02,930 --> 01:11:59,750 weaker colonies of bacteria and 1712 01:12:04,669 --> 01:12:02,940 encourage the growth so the we cat 1713 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:04,679 colonies of bacteria will die off and 1714 01:12:09,290 --> 01:12:07,050 the stronger colonies will basically eat 1715 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:09,300 their remains and grow ever stronger so 1716 01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:11,489 I mean the antibiotic resistance is a 1717 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:13,520 major thing today 1718 01:12:18,340 --> 01:12:16,250 and who would have anticipated that you 1719 01:12:20,620 --> 01:12:18,350 know when antibiotics were basically a 1720 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:20,630 miracle cure because you know if you cut 1721 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:24,170 your finger on a rusty nail 60 or 70 1722 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:26,570 years ago you know anytime between you 1723 01:12:30,820 --> 01:12:27,890 know maybe like the early 20th century 1724 01:12:32,830 --> 01:12:30,830 whenever before antibiotics were widely 1725 01:12:34,570 --> 01:12:32,840 available you see you cut your finger on 1726 01:12:36,910 --> 01:12:34,580 the rusty nail that could be a death 1727 01:12:39,010 --> 01:12:36,920 sentence you know you get a cold and 1728 01:12:40,450 --> 01:12:39,020 that could be a death sentence you see 1729 01:12:42,190 --> 01:12:40,460 what I'm saying so it's like we need you 1730 01:12:43,870 --> 01:12:42,200 bionics we like you know sky's the limit 1731 01:12:47,410 --> 01:12:43,880 you know I have a party take as many as 1732 01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:47,420 you want but that creates an opposite 1733 01:12:51,829 --> 01:12:49,310 and equal reaction so once you start 1734 01:12:53,889 --> 01:12:51,839 talking about gene editing 1735 01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:53,899 if you ask me anything that could 1736 01:13:00,529 --> 01:12:57,199 unleash the eventual extinction of all 1737 01:13:03,259 --> 01:13:00,539 at least mammalian life on Earth I would 1738 01:13:06,379 --> 01:13:03,269 say it's random idiots cutting and 1739 01:13:08,540 --> 01:13:06,389 pasting genes yeah I mean for real I 1740 01:13:10,669 --> 01:13:08,550 mean that read I can't imagine anything 1741 01:13:12,199 --> 01:13:10,679 more frightening you know that's kind of 1742 01:13:13,459 --> 01:13:12,209 what I was gonna ask you as we start to 1743 01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:13,469 try to wrap this up 1744 01:13:17,599 --> 01:13:16,289 sometimes these patterns and stuff they 1745 01:13:19,849 --> 01:13:17,609 can be really interesting and we can 1746 01:13:21,319 --> 01:13:19,859 squint and we can see some gears moving 1747 01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,329 even if we can't break down the whole 1748 01:13:26,509 --> 01:13:23,760 machine itself but I do think listeners 1749 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:26,519 can sometimes feel like okay well how 1750 01:13:31,459 --> 01:13:29,010 does this relate to my life or maybe it 1751 01:13:33,709 --> 01:13:31,469 doesn't directly but do you have any 1752 01:13:35,809 --> 01:13:33,719 advice for people on how to live or how 1753 01:13:38,949 --> 01:13:35,819 to fold in this information as they 1754 01:13:42,020 --> 01:13:38,959 navigate well the first thing to do is 1755 01:13:45,049 --> 01:13:42,030 maintain your sense of humor I think 1756 01:13:47,659 --> 01:13:45,059 that's really important yes and don't 1757 01:13:50,649 --> 01:13:47,669 allow it to take over your life don't 1758 01:13:54,049 --> 01:13:50,659 lock yourself in the room with a laptop 1759 01:13:56,569 --> 01:13:54,059 and a modem or stop doing it you know 1760 01:13:58,819 --> 01:13:56,579 and just like spend all your time like I 1761 01:14:01,569 --> 01:13:58,829 have been known to do on occasion voice 1762 01:14:05,059 --> 01:14:01,579 of experience not a good idea 1763 01:14:06,979 --> 01:14:05,069 enjoy life they always say like Living 1764 01:14:08,989 --> 01:14:06,989 Well is the best revenge so live well 1765 01:14:11,659 --> 01:14:08,999 you know live well let's go can you know 1766 01:14:13,250 --> 01:14:11,669 there's a hardcore band for my time yeah 1767 01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:13,260 song we just want to have some fun while 1768 01:14:17,059 --> 01:14:14,729 we're young enough to get away with it 1769 01:14:19,659 --> 01:14:17,069 it's just like enjoy your life while you 1770 01:14:23,119 --> 01:14:19,669 can get away with it but conversely 1771 01:14:25,150 --> 01:14:23,129 maybe for some people the stuff isn't 1772 01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:25,160 just like 1773 01:14:29,770 --> 01:14:28,400 I don't want to say entertainment but it 1774 01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:29,780 isn't just like this sort of marginal 1775 01:14:33,970 --> 01:14:32,000 thing that you hear on like a podcast to 1776 01:14:38,430 --> 01:14:33,980 read on the blog something yeah maybe 1777 01:14:40,570 --> 01:14:38,440 there is some larger purpose at work 1778 01:14:42,460 --> 01:14:40,580 maybe there's a larger purpose at work 1779 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:42,470 that you're out there listening for this 1780 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:45,290 maybe you're part of that if this kind 1781 01:14:49,060 --> 01:14:47,930 of thing sort of captures your eye maybe 1782 01:14:50,410 --> 01:14:49,070 there's a reason for that 1783 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:50,420 you know what I'm saying maybe there's 1784 01:14:55,330 --> 01:14:52,970 something behind that maybe you know 1785 01:14:57,820 --> 01:14:55,340 you're being taken in a particular 1786 01:14:59,920 --> 01:14:57,830 direction I think that's up to the 1787 01:15:01,630 --> 01:14:59,930 individual that's nothing anybody else 1788 01:15:03,790 --> 01:15:01,640 can answer for you no matter how smart 1789 01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,800 or wise or enlightened they are they 1790 01:15:08,170 --> 01:15:05,360 can't answer that for you you have to 1791 01:15:11,010 --> 01:15:08,180 determine that for yourself but I think 1792 01:15:13,780 --> 01:15:11,020 that people maintain a sense of humor 1793 01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:13,790 retain a sense of perspective don't let 1794 01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:16,490 it overwhelm your life but at the same 1795 01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:19,360 time I have people all the time saying 1796 01:15:23,890 --> 01:15:22,310 used to read your blog and then all this 1797 01:15:26,770 --> 01:15:23,900 stuff sort of manifested itself in my 1798 01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:26,780 own life okay well maybe there's a 1799 01:15:30,270 --> 01:15:28,400 reason for that maybe she pay attention 1800 01:15:34,810 --> 01:15:30,280 to that you know maybe you're being 1801 01:15:36,370 --> 01:15:34,820 called for some reason into some role I 1802 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:36,380 mean who knows I mean this is the way 1803 01:15:40,810 --> 01:15:37,970 history has always worked you know 1804 01:15:43,060 --> 01:15:40,820 you're calling your vocation vocation 1805 01:15:44,410 --> 01:15:43,070 means you're calling right alright so if 1806 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:44,420 it does bother you in a particular way 1807 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:45,890 you start noticing synchronous so you 1808 01:15:50,350 --> 01:15:47,290 really start to take hold in your life 1809 01:15:52,930 --> 01:15:50,360 definitely pay attention to it but 1810 01:15:55,810 --> 01:15:52,940 always test it always assume that its 1811 01:15:57,850 --> 01:15:55,820 fictitious and wrong until you've 1812 01:16:00,160 --> 01:15:57,860 overwhelmingly proven to yourself that 1813 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:00,170 otherwise you know don't take anything 1814 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:00,890 for granted 1815 01:16:05,740 --> 01:16:03,770 approach it scientifically in the best 1816 01:16:08,890 --> 01:16:05,750 sense of the word you know that I'm 1817 01:16:11,620 --> 01:16:08,900 going to try and disprove this I'm going 1818 01:16:14,260 --> 01:16:11,630 to see if this is falsifiable in other 1819 01:16:15,550 --> 01:16:14,270 words so don't just sort of surf it you 1820 01:16:17,860 --> 01:16:15,560 know and just you sort of get this 1821 01:16:20,770 --> 01:16:17,870 dopamine kick when these things start 1822 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:20,780 piling up that Cerf can lead you to the 1823 01:16:24,730 --> 01:16:22,130 rocks 1824 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:24,740 I would recommend that test the spirits 1825 01:16:29,220 --> 01:16:27,410 you know Gordon seems to believe that 1826 01:16:31,630 --> 01:16:29,230 synchronicity is just a form of magic 1827 01:16:33,820 --> 01:16:31,640 magic is an effect of the spirits 1828 01:16:36,250 --> 01:16:33,830 however you choose to define the spirits 1829 01:16:38,020 --> 01:16:36,260 all the great sages throughout history 1830 01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:38,030 have said that the spirits need to be 1831 01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:40,490 tested right always test the spirits 1832 01:16:44,260 --> 01:16:42,710 yeah because maybe the demons maybe the 1833 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:44,270 demon leading you to your destruction 1834 01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:45,650 you know you have to learn how to 1835 01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:48,110 distinguish that you know I'm saying but 1836 01:16:51,210 --> 01:16:49,910 I think one of the reasons why it's so 1837 01:16:53,940 --> 01:16:51,220 important to me to do the work I do 1838 01:16:56,620 --> 01:16:53,950 particularly these new archetypes being 1839 01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:56,630 introduced into the mainstream the 1840 01:17:00,910 --> 01:16:58,610 problem is is that when archetypes are 1841 01:17:02,770 --> 01:17:00,920 new they have a much greater power than 1842 01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:02,780 archetypes that have been around for a 1843 01:17:06,940 --> 01:17:04,390 long time you know it's sort of like 1844 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:06,950 Mickey Mouse was new back in like the 1845 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:10,010 20s and 30s Winnie the Pooh was old hat 1846 01:17:15,610 --> 01:17:13,970 by then but then Bugs Bunny becomes the 1847 01:17:17,710 --> 01:17:15,620 big thing and then Winnie the Pooh isn't 1848 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:17,720 really that important same thing with 1849 01:17:21,070 --> 01:17:19,370 archetypes it's like archetypes sort of 1850 01:17:23,260 --> 01:17:21,080 have the fashionable period and 1851 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:23,270 appearing when they're really potent and 1852 01:17:26,050 --> 01:17:24,530 then they sort of give way to new 1853 01:17:28,690 --> 01:17:26,060 archetypes and I believe right now that 1854 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:28,700 we are in a phase of time where the old 1855 01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:30,050 archetypes are giving way the new 1856 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:31,310 archetypes and I think you need to 1857 01:17:35,140 --> 01:17:33,050 understand what these archetypes are and 1858 01:17:36,910 --> 01:17:35,150 why it's so important to me to see these 1859 01:17:38,740 --> 01:17:36,920 archetypes at work in the world of 1860 01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:38,750 events you know the world of reality of 1861 01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:40,450 the world of causality cause-and-effect 1862 01:17:46,150 --> 01:17:43,760 things happening so you can determine 1863 01:17:48,220 --> 01:17:46,160 what archetypes and what themes and 1864 01:17:50,590 --> 01:17:48,230 memes and so on and so forth are real 1865 01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:50,600 and not just a bunch of idiots in a 1866 01:17:54,340 --> 01:17:52,490 conference from just trying to screw 1867 01:17:56,230 --> 01:17:54,350 with everybody's heads you know I think 1868 01:17:57,700 --> 01:17:56,240 that's really important so that's one of 1869 01:17:59,650 --> 01:17:57,710 the main reasons I'm doing the work I do 1870 01:18:03,220 --> 01:17:59,660 and I do the work I do basically for no 1871 01:18:05,500 --> 01:18:03,230 money I volunteer my time I'm very punk 1872 01:18:06,610 --> 01:18:05,510 rock about it I think it's important I 1873 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:06,620 think it's important that people 1874 01:18:10,930 --> 01:18:09,050 understand that symbols are 1875 01:18:13,390 --> 01:18:10,940 extraordinarily powerful symbols have 1876 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:13,400 their own power symbols are the basis of 1877 01:18:20,350 --> 01:18:17,570 all magic Paul magical systems magic is 1878 01:18:21,919 --> 01:18:20,360 the basis of basically all human 1879 01:18:24,290 --> 01:18:21,929 activity 1880 01:18:26,780 --> 01:18:24,300 so you see sort of this cascading effect 1881 01:18:29,090 --> 01:18:26,790 right if people are using these symbols 1882 01:18:30,649 --> 01:18:29,100 to manipulate you and to steer your 1883 01:18:32,899 --> 01:18:30,659 emotions and you control your thoughts 1884 01:18:34,939 --> 01:18:32,909 you should at least understand what they 1885 01:18:36,860 --> 01:18:34,949 are and where they come from isn't that 1886 01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:36,870 always kind of basic to me it seems 1887 01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:38,640 basic because you can say well I'm just 1888 01:18:42,290 --> 01:18:40,350 gonna ignore it or you can't ignore it 1889 01:18:45,530 --> 01:18:42,300 you can't ignore it because you're 1890 01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:45,540 constantly being subjected to them like 1891 01:18:48,830 --> 01:18:48,030 I said it's inescapable the rituals now 1892 01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:48,840 are never-ending 1893 01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:51,090 you can't escape the stuff you can't get 1894 01:18:54,620 --> 01:18:52,380 away from it so you really need to 1895 01:18:57,229 --> 01:18:54,630 understand what it means and where it's 1896 01:18:58,880 --> 01:18:57,239 coming from and where it intends to go 1897 01:19:00,490 --> 01:18:58,890 because otherwise you're gonna get swept 1898 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:00,500 up in it you know it's almost like 1899 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:03,330 you're building a boat you know when the 1900 01:19:08,810 --> 01:19:05,850 tide starts to come in and it's a really 1901 01:19:11,570 --> 01:19:08,820 poor and lame and stupid analogy but I 1902 01:19:13,550 --> 01:19:11,580 think it's still apt you need to be able 1903 01:19:15,740 --> 01:19:13,560 to navigate these waters because you're 1904 01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:15,750 in them whether you want to be a nut and 1905 01:19:20,780 --> 01:19:18,000 there's no getting out of you can go run 1906 01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:20,790 off and live off the grid eat what you 1907 01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:23,310 kill that's maybe the only way you can 1908 01:19:32,970 --> 01:19:26,510 get away from them but if you're in 1909 01:19:38,430 --> 01:19:36,810 you cannot get away from them at all you 1910 01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:38,440 have no choice it doesn't matter what 1911 01:19:42,270 --> 01:19:40,000 you choose to watch what you choose to 1912 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:42,280 consume where you choose to go you know 1913 01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:43,210 it's like I said but this whole thing 1914 01:19:46,770 --> 01:19:45,310 the siren okay say well I'm not gonna 1915 01:19:48,270 --> 01:19:46,780 pay attention to sine cuz I don't care 1916 01:19:50,729 --> 01:19:48,280 it has nothing to do with my life well 1917 01:19:55,050 --> 01:19:50,739 guess what every single [\h__\h] place you 1918 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:55,060 go is gonna have that icon staring back 1919 01:19:58,860 --> 01:19:57,370 at you you cannot avoid it you go into 1920 01:19:59,940 --> 01:19:58,870 the supermarket you're gonna see you go 1921 01:20:01,290 --> 01:19:59,950 into the convenience store you're gonna 1922 01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:01,300 see you're going to a mall you're gonna 1923 01:20:05,130 --> 01:20:03,280 see it you're going to Walmart you're 1924 01:20:08,180 --> 01:20:05,140 gonna see that icon all over the place 1925 01:20:11,940 --> 01:20:08,190 it's going to be in every downtown area 1926 01:20:13,890 --> 01:20:11,950 Subway's airports wherever you go you're 1927 01:20:15,860 --> 01:20:13,900 going to be confronted with that icon do 1928 01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:15,870 you think that's an accident 1929 01:20:19,290 --> 01:20:17,710 unintentional you think there's no 1930 01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:19,300 reasoning behind that you think there's 1931 01:20:23,190 --> 01:20:21,760 no intent behind that if you think that 1932 01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:23,200 you really shouldn't be listening to 1933 01:20:26,850 --> 01:20:24,880 this program you know what I'm saying 1934 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:26,860 I'm serious I mean I don't want to sound 1935 01:20:31,950 --> 01:20:28,690 like heart but if you really believe 1936 01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:31,960 there's no reason for that siren siren 1937 01:20:34,770 --> 01:20:33,430 of the Philosopher's which was very 1938 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:34,780 highly regarded by the medieval 1939 01:20:37,979 --> 01:20:36,730 alchemist by the way if you really 1940 01:20:39,860 --> 01:20:37,989 believe that there's no reason for that 1941 01:20:42,750 --> 01:20:39,870 icon to be every single place you go 1942 01:20:44,190 --> 01:20:42,760 anywhere in the world now I mean you go 1943 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:44,200 to Malaysia you're gonna see you go to 1944 01:20:47,130 --> 01:20:45,730 Indonesia you're gonna see in Japan you 1945 01:20:49,140 --> 01:20:47,140 know anywhere you go you're gonna be 1946 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:49,150 confronted with that icon if you think 1947 01:20:51,930 --> 01:20:50,650 that's accidental that's not for a 1948 01:20:54,270 --> 01:20:51,940 reason that there's not a purpose behind 1949 01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:54,280 that I literally have nothing to say to 1950 01:21:00,690 --> 01:20:56,560 you because we're not living in the same 1951 01:21:04,020 --> 01:21:00,700 reality huh I agree cheers to all that 1952 01:21:06,630 --> 01:21:04,030 man seems like we are modern-day Noah's 1953 01:21:08,910 --> 01:21:06,640 on the conspiracy and just trying to 1954 01:21:10,979 --> 01:21:08,920 stay afloat and I find it all 1955 01:21:13,890 --> 01:21:10,989 fascinating we talked about so many 1956 01:21:16,050 --> 01:21:13,900 things it's probably time to bring the 1957 01:21:18,510 --> 01:21:16,060 rollercoaster back into the station you 1958 01:21:20,670 --> 01:21:18,520 are one of my favorite synchro mystics 1959 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:20,680 even though that's gotta be a short list 1960 01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:23,530 whatever that means but I feel really 1961 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:25,840 lucky that you'd come back and let me 1962 01:21:29,670 --> 01:21:27,610 interview you so many times and share 1963 01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:29,680 all these insights with us it's always a 1964 01:21:35,010 --> 01:21:32,190 serious pleasure of course secret Sun 1965 01:21:37,020 --> 01:21:35,020 blogspot.com is where all this stuff 1966 01:21:39,630 --> 01:21:37,030 goes down you've got some great books 1967 01:21:42,419 --> 01:21:39,640 out there too you've exited Facebook any 1968 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:42,429 information to give them Twitter maybe 1969 01:21:48,540 --> 01:21:45,489 yeah the secret son speaks on Twitter I 1970 01:21:50,729 --> 01:21:48,550 got off of Facebook and it was one of 1971 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:50,739 the best decisions I've made in my adult 1972 01:21:56,700 --> 01:21:54,130 life I cannot recommend getting off 1973 01:21:59,340 --> 01:21:56,710 Facebook highly enough for all you out 1974 01:22:01,709 --> 01:21:59,350 there I know it's fun to keep track of 1975 01:22:03,330 --> 01:22:01,719 your high school chums and see what your 1976 01:22:07,919 --> 01:22:03,340 friends had for dinner last night and 1977 01:22:10,229 --> 01:22:07,929 stuff like that but Facebook is bad it's 1978 01:22:11,970 --> 01:22:10,239 bad for you it's bad for your mind it's 1979 01:22:15,450 --> 01:22:11,980 bad for your soul and it's bad for your 1980 01:22:16,979 --> 01:22:15,460 spirit get off of it hmm you know 1981 01:22:19,050 --> 01:22:16,989 there's two and a half hours of ranting 1982 01:22:19,530 --> 01:22:19,060 whatever you know how do we use this in 1983 01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:19,540 our lives 1984 01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:22,000 well if there's any takeaway that you 1985 01:22:28,169 --> 01:22:25,270 want from this entire rant here get off 1986 01:22:31,169 --> 01:22:28,179 Facebook and stay on Facebook he will 1987 01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:31,179 make your life so much better 1988 01:22:36,689 --> 01:22:33,760 it'll make you happier food will taste 1989 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:36,699 better the grass Peter all right if you 1990 01:22:42,959 --> 01:22:39,610 take away nothing else at least take 1991 01:22:45,390 --> 01:22:42,969 that away but man he's hurt just 1992 01:22:47,399 --> 01:22:45,400 troubling times in a strange reality I 1993 01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:47,409 appreciate you spending some of your 1994 01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:49,750 coma beauty rest time with us I hope you 1995 01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:52,480 do wake up soon but until then man keep 1996 01:22:56,910 --> 01:22:54,550 doing the true great work that you do 1997 01:22:57,890 --> 01:22:56,920 thank you so much really enjoyed it you 1998 01:23:02,580 --> 01:22:57,900 got it 1999 01:23:04,260 --> 01:23:02,590 sweet winter solstice people oh man it 2000 01:23:05,729 --> 01:23:04,270 was actually yesterday but you can't 2001 01:23:08,220 --> 01:23:05,739 expect me to get much done on the 2002 01:23:10,410 --> 01:23:08,230 shortest day of the year but we recorded 2003 01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:10,420 this on a new moon released it on a full 2004 01:23:14,850 --> 01:23:10,960 moon 2005 01:23:16,919 --> 01:23:14,860 dear Jesus am I doing this right I'm 2006 01:23:18,930 --> 01:23:16,929 just messing around although I try and 2007 01:23:21,419 --> 01:23:18,940 keep this sort of stuff in mind I do use 2008 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:21,429 calendars that just have that extra 2009 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:24,250 information on them easy to do what the 2010 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:26,610 planets and the moon are up to I'm 2011 01:23:31,020 --> 01:23:28,810 trying to be better about at least 2012 01:23:34,350 --> 01:23:31,030 considering that stuff and if it has it 2013 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:34,360 on the calendar I use that becomes good 2014 01:23:38,850 --> 01:23:36,010 training wheels for me and this was just 2015 01:23:40,290 --> 01:23:38,860 a happy accident really I think I just 2016 01:23:43,290 --> 01:23:40,300 have this sort of drunken boxing 2017 01:23:45,689 --> 01:23:43,300 approach to cosmic timing where I tend 2018 01:23:49,470 --> 01:23:45,699 to just stumble into a win a lot of the 2019 01:23:52,590 --> 01:23:49,480 time but regardless Chris Noel's the 2020 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:52,600 syncro mystic state of the union it 2021 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:53,770 makes for a good end-of-the-year 2022 01:23:57,569 --> 01:23:56,050 overview type of show and it's 2023 01:24:00,209 --> 01:23:57,579 always a pleasure to talk about this 2024 01:24:01,770 --> 01:24:00,219 weird world with him some added stuff 2025 01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:01,780 did happen in the meantime 2026 01:24:05,790 --> 01:24:03,280 while this was being edited and I 2027 01:24:07,919 --> 01:24:05,800 thought it was worth mentioning I said 2028 01:24:09,959 --> 01:24:07,929 something about this on the last open 2029 01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:09,969 lines joint session which went really 2030 01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:11,920 well by the way if you're a plus member 2031 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:14,230 it's like two and a half hours of taking 2032 01:24:18,810 --> 01:24:16,449 all sorts of calls from listeners and it 2033 01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:18,820 was a really good time if you watched 2034 01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:21,520 the archived video on the plus site in 2035 01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:24,880 the first 24 hours it was out that was 2036 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:27,610 the version of the stream that YouTube 2037 01:24:31,379 --> 01:24:29,650 saves for me and it's really easy 2038 01:24:32,910 --> 01:24:31,389 because it's already on the internet so 2039 01:24:35,580 --> 01:24:32,920 I just have to link it over on the plus 2040 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:35,590 site but when I watched a bit of it it 2041 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:38,290 was quite choppy so I replaced it with 2042 01:24:42,660 --> 01:24:40,449 my local recording and it's a whole lot 2043 01:24:44,910 --> 01:24:42,670 smoother it just took a while to render 2044 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:44,920 it and upload it but I'm just gonna do 2045 01:24:50,069 --> 01:24:46,090 it that way from now on 2046 01:24:52,620 --> 01:24:50,079 so anyway I am watching good old Joseph 2047 01:24:54,750 --> 01:24:52,630 Farrell doing his news and views just 2048 01:24:57,330 --> 01:24:54,760 before the joint session and he had 2049 01:25:00,330 --> 01:24:57,340 mentioned the recent creation of a US 2050 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:00,340 Space Command different from the space 2051 01:25:05,700 --> 01:25:03,010 force and one of the candidates to run 2052 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:05,710 it is this guy general mark Milley well 2053 01:25:10,379 --> 01:25:08,530 Trump nominated general Milley almost 2054 01:25:13,890 --> 01:25:10,389 sounds like a guy who oversees cereal 2055 01:25:16,589 --> 01:25:13,900 but Trump nominated general Milley for a 2056 01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:16,599 promotion from chief of staff of the US 2057 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:18,639 Army to chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 2058 01:25:23,370 --> 01:25:21,130 Staff overall at a certain point these 2059 01:25:26,129 --> 01:25:23,380 titles just seemed silly but this 2060 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:26,139 promotion happened this month or this 2061 01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:28,570 nomination for a promotion happened this 2062 01:25:32,250 --> 01:25:30,400 month and then just a couple of weeks 2063 01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:32,260 later they announced the Space Command 2064 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:33,760 plan and his name is one of the ones 2065 01:25:38,970 --> 01:25:36,489 tossed around to hed it and so what 2066 01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:38,980 right well listen to this quote from a 2067 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:42,159 speech General Mills gave in 2016 and 2068 01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:43,449 he's talking to 2069 01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:46,960 ROTC recruits and he says you're gonna 2070 01:25:50,879 --> 01:25:49,449 have to be open-minded and adaptive to 2071 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:50,889 be able to deal with the complexity of 2072 01:25:56,700 --> 01:25:54,250 the world that involves so many 2073 01:26:01,229 --> 01:25:56,710 different dynamic elements that it's 2074 01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:01,239 hard to describe in sentences if the 2075 01:26:09,899 --> 01:26:06,400 world of 1916 was complex or the world 2076 01:26:14,370 --> 01:26:09,909 of 1945 was complex 2077 01:26:17,370 --> 01:26:14,380 the world of 2016 is intensely complex 2078 01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:17,380 and I can tell you that from personal 2079 01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:18,400 experience 2080 01:26:22,979 --> 01:26:21,070 and I know there's many others who can 2081 01:26:25,379 --> 01:26:22,989 tell you that as well and you will 2082 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:25,389 graduate and be in that world and you're 2083 01:26:28,890 --> 01:26:27,250 going to be leading the soldiers and 2084 01:26:31,979 --> 01:26:28,900 sailors the airmen and the Marines in 2085 01:26:35,310 --> 01:26:31,989 that world you'll be dealing with 2086 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:35,320 terrorists you'll be dealing with hybrid 2087 01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:37,330 armies you'll be dealing with little 2088 01:26:42,270 --> 01:26:39,760 green men you're gonna be dealing with 2089 01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:42,280 tribes you'll be dealing with national 2090 01:26:46,590 --> 01:26:44,320 leaders and local leaders you'll be 2091 01:26:48,180 --> 01:26:46,600 dealing with politics and economics and 2092 01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:48,190 you'll be dealing with direct fire and 2093 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:49,840 indirect fire and you're gonna be 2094 01:26:55,260 --> 01:26:51,610 dealing with it all and it's all gonna 2095 01:26:58,649 --> 01:26:55,270 be dealt with simultaneously and for 2096 01:27:02,610 --> 01:26:58,659 that you're gonna have to be ready he 2097 01:27:06,180 --> 01:27:02,620 just told again 2016 couple years ago 2098 01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:06,190 but he told ROTC recruits people are 2099 01:27:11,129 --> 01:27:08,650 going to be giving their entire life 2100 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:11,139 over to the military losing complete 2101 01:27:17,939 --> 01:27:14,850 autonomy and maybe even their existence 2102 01:27:21,540 --> 01:27:17,949 itself that they would be dealing with 2103 01:27:24,209 --> 01:27:21,550 hybrid armies and little green men this 2104 01:27:26,910 --> 01:27:24,219 isn't a time for joking around he's 2105 01:27:30,180 --> 01:27:26,920 warning them about what military service 2106 01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:30,190 entails I don't think I'll make it more 2107 01:27:33,689 --> 01:27:31,360 of this than there should be I mean 2108 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:33,699 hybrid armies folks from a high-ranking 2109 01:27:39,149 --> 01:27:36,570 general in the president's inner circle 2110 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:39,159 so Joseph Ferrell brought this to my 2111 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:42,130 attention and I also saw that 24 to 48 2112 01:27:46,860 --> 01:27:44,050 hours after the Space Command was 2113 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:46,870 announced NASA announced that they had a 2114 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:49,810 huge security breach hacking situation 2115 01:27:53,820 --> 01:27:51,730 just two weeks ago 2116 01:27:56,460 --> 01:27:53,830 then we have that drill hole in the ISS 2117 01:27:57,900 --> 01:27:56,470 or at least the story of it and I don't 2118 01:27:59,820 --> 01:27:57,910 know but to me these are just some 2119 01:28:02,100 --> 01:27:59,830 interesting things to throw in the 2120 01:28:05,190 --> 01:28:02,110 boiling pot of crazy stuff that seems to 2121 01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:05,200 be bubbling up to the highest level for 2122 01:28:09,870 --> 01:28:07,600 years anything related to NASA or space 2123 01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:09,880 was quite boring and all they produced 2124 01:28:13,260 --> 01:28:11,710 was pens that wrote upside down in 2125 01:28:15,900 --> 01:28:13,270 memory foam 2126 01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:15,910 but lately even with things just like 2127 01:28:22,290 --> 01:28:19,840 that 2007 UFO investigation project that 2128 01:28:24,510 --> 01:28:22,300 the Pentagon disclosed or this sabotage 2129 01:28:27,330 --> 01:28:24,520 and the cyber attacks in the space 2130 01:28:29,310 --> 01:28:27,340 agency's space it's pretty interesting 2131 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:29,320 to me and it does seem like we have more 2132 01:28:34,770 --> 01:28:31,690 pieces to analyze in the last two years 2133 01:28:37,650 --> 01:28:34,780 than we did in the previous eight so I 2134 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:37,660 don't know what to say be awake be ready 2135 01:28:41,890 --> 01:28:40,210 you do not know the hour when the Zords 2136 01:28:44,020 --> 01:28:41,900 are coming 2137 01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:44,030 I also think Chris has nailed it with 2138 01:28:48,910 --> 01:28:46,310 both sides of the Great Seal encoding 2139 01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:48,920 Lyra the case is pretty well made to me 2140 01:28:54,189 --> 01:28:51,110 and Chris is an artist by day so he 2141 01:28:55,570 --> 01:28:54,199 understands the stuff pretty well and in 2142 01:28:57,189 --> 01:28:55,580 the case of the pyramid side of the 2143 01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:57,199 Great Seal on the dollar bill he 2144 01:29:02,080 --> 01:28:58,730 mentioned that when you look at it from 2145 01:29:05,950 --> 01:29:02,090 an artists perspective the angle of the 2146 01:29:08,380 --> 01:29:05,960 3d base isn't quite right and much like 2147 01:29:10,419 --> 01:29:08,390 how Michael Juan saw the 40 being 2148 01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:10,429 backwards and mirrored on the famous 2149 01:29:14,169 --> 01:29:12,560 John Smith map of Virginia that led him 2150 01:29:16,919 --> 01:29:14,179 down a rabbit hole right there in plain 2151 01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:16,929 sight when something of this nature 2152 01:29:22,450 --> 01:29:19,760 doesn't look right it could very well be 2153 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:22,460 a code to something hidden there it 2154 01:29:27,189 --> 01:29:24,290 intentionally doesn't look right so that 2155 01:29:28,899 --> 01:29:27,199 then you can initiate yourself into 2156 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:28,909 going down the rabbit hole of what it's 2157 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:31,489 really trying to say and I think the 2158 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:33,890 Great Seal is Lyra because it's both 2159 01:29:39,580 --> 01:29:36,530 sides it is the pyramid and the shield 2160 01:29:41,380 --> 01:29:39,590 and as Chris says in the blog post where 2161 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:41,390 he shows the original design for the 2162 01:29:46,649 --> 01:29:44,449 seal in 1776 yeah it does have the eye 2163 01:29:50,020 --> 01:29:46,659 and the capstone and does have a shield 2164 01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:50,030 but it is also quite different and so 2165 01:29:57,220 --> 01:29:54,050 that was proposed in 1776 then three 2166 01:30:00,160 --> 01:29:57,230 years later in 1979 the ring nebula was 2167 01:30:01,330 --> 01:30:00,170 discovered or at least it was announced 2168 01:30:04,780 --> 01:30:01,340 that it was discovered in the 2169 01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:04,790 constellation of Lyra and three years 2170 01:30:09,970 --> 01:30:07,310 after that we have the Great Seal that 2171 01:30:12,189 --> 01:30:09,980 everyone now knows and carries in their 2172 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:12,199 pocket if you're lucky enough to have a 2173 01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:15,170 dollar but it makes me wonder if history 2174 01:30:19,930 --> 01:30:18,320 is even [\h__\h] real because 1779 seems 2175 01:30:22,180 --> 01:30:19,940 like a long time ago to be discovering 2176 01:30:23,919 --> 01:30:22,190 nebulas not that we can't go back even 2177 01:30:25,930 --> 01:30:23,929 further and find knowledge of the Stars 2178 01:30:30,430 --> 01:30:25,940 that we shouldn't have but it's right 2179 01:30:32,620 --> 01:30:30,440 smack dab in between 1776 and 1782 2180 01:30:34,300 --> 01:30:32,630 and I don't even think this got 2181 01:30:37,180 --> 01:30:34,310 mentioned in the episode it was kind of 2182 01:30:39,370 --> 01:30:37,190 a whirlwind but there was a proposed 2183 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:39,380 mission to go check out a moo-moo' ax 2184 01:30:45,850 --> 01:30:43,330 and what was that called Project Lyra 2185 01:30:47,709 --> 01:30:45,860 where did this thing supposedly come 2186 01:30:50,830 --> 01:30:47,719 from well to quote the sketchy New York 2187 01:30:53,169 --> 01:30:50,840 Times it was first noticed zooming out 2188 01:30:55,839 --> 01:30:53,179 of the constellation Lyra 2189 01:30:58,359 --> 01:30:55,849 pretty strange right and we did not even 2190 01:31:00,279 --> 01:30:58,369 tie in many of the Liz Fraser or song of 2191 01:31:02,469 --> 01:31:00,289 the siren details but if you follow the 2192 01:31:04,270 --> 01:31:02,479 secret sudden blog then you see that 2193 01:31:07,509 --> 01:31:04,280 these threads are all over this stuff 2194 01:31:09,989 --> 01:31:07,519 too it's a bit overly complicated for a 2195 01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:09,999 podcast discussion that was already so 2196 01:31:14,919 --> 01:31:12,650 packed that it was well over two hours 2197 01:31:18,819 --> 01:31:14,929 and is still about two and a half hours 2198 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:18,829 after editing so we left that layer out 2199 01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:20,570 of it for the most part but let me drop 2200 01:31:25,149 --> 01:31:23,209 this on you so that Harvard paper was 2201 01:31:28,449 --> 01:31:25,159 suggesting that a Mulla Mulla could be 2202 01:31:31,839 --> 01:31:28,459 quote a dislodged solar sail from an 2203 01:31:34,540 --> 01:31:31,849 alien probe so a sail like a sailboat 2204 01:31:36,939 --> 01:31:34,550 and what was the name of the album Tim 2205 01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:36,949 Buckley put the song in the siren on in 2206 01:31:44,319 --> 01:31:42,110 1970 star sailor also the key ops thing 2207 01:31:46,390 --> 01:31:44,329 it's been a long time since I heard the 2208 01:31:48,879 --> 01:31:46,400 Great Pyramid referenced as the Pyramid 2209 01:31:51,879 --> 01:31:48,889 of Cheops but that's absolutely a true 2210 01:31:53,739 --> 01:31:51,889 thing so very strange acronym for a 2211 01:31:55,569 --> 01:31:53,749 Space Telescope it really does seem like 2212 01:31:57,969 --> 01:31:55,579 they're trying to make the pieces fit I 2213 01:32:00,640 --> 01:31:57,979 don't think Cheops just happened to be 2214 01:32:02,669 --> 01:32:00,650 what the name was also again like 2215 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:02,679 Lucifer which is what the Vatican's 2216 01:32:07,930 --> 01:32:05,090 telescope is called 2217 01:32:10,390 --> 01:32:07,940 and that's a seven letter acronym why 2218 01:32:13,150 --> 01:32:10,400 can't you just call it the Vatican Space 2219 01:32:15,820 --> 01:32:13,160 Telescope does it really need a seven 2220 01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:15,830 letter acronym which basically means a 2221 01:32:22,570 --> 01:32:19,730 seven word long name no it doesn't 2222 01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:22,580 unless you want to name it Lucifer but 2223 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:24,800 man Chris likes to joke on the blog that 2224 01:32:29,740 --> 01:32:27,410 he's got to be in a coma and I 2225 01:32:31,450 --> 01:32:29,750 understand why it's a crazy level of 2226 01:32:33,910 --> 01:32:31,460 connections that just shouldn't exist 2227 01:32:36,460 --> 01:32:33,920 and if we have all these references to 2228 01:32:38,530 --> 01:32:36,470 space and the constellations hidden in 2229 01:32:40,450 --> 01:32:38,540 something like government seals and the 2230 01:32:42,700 --> 01:32:40,460 dollar bill and we have all these 2231 01:32:46,060 --> 01:32:42,710 references in our space agency and 2232 01:32:49,060 --> 01:32:46,070 telescopes relating to ancient Egypt the 2233 01:32:52,690 --> 01:32:49,070 Bible space missions named after 2234 01:32:55,390 --> 01:32:52,700 Egyptian and Greek gods it's like a 2235 01:33:00,340 --> 01:32:55,400 connection that goes both ways and to me 2236 01:33:02,290 --> 01:33:00,350 it means I guess a somehow factions of 2237 01:33:04,450 --> 01:33:02,300 the elite are descended from something 2238 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:04,460 that came from the Lyra corner of the 2239 01:33:09,010 --> 01:33:06,890 sky in the same way that when we go 2240 01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:09,020 somewhere new we plant a flag this is 2241 01:33:14,290 --> 01:33:12,110 like leaving your stamp but a little bit 2242 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:14,300 hidden from the public so I could see 2243 01:33:20,230 --> 01:33:17,930 that or be it could be like a cargo cult 2244 01:33:21,910 --> 01:33:20,240 type of thing something Gordon and Chris 2245 01:33:24,220 --> 01:33:21,920 have talked about before but when a 2246 01:33:26,050 --> 01:33:24,230 plane flies over an Amazonian tribe and 2247 01:33:27,730 --> 01:33:26,060 drop supplies there has been a 2248 01:33:30,310 --> 01:33:27,740 phenomenon where the people try to call 2249 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:30,320 them back by making models of planes and 2250 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:33,170 signals that can be seen from the air it 2251 01:33:37,270 --> 01:33:34,970 could be something like that trying to 2252 01:33:39,370 --> 01:33:37,280 get the attention of something out in 2253 01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:39,380 that area because you've seen something 2254 01:33:45,490 --> 01:33:42,710 come from there before or see which is 2255 01:33:47,380 --> 01:33:45,500 pretty much just like a and B plus magic 2256 01:33:50,410 --> 01:33:47,390 it's some sort of highly organized and 2257 01:33:51,970 --> 01:33:50,420 very long-standing ritual that's trying 2258 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:51,980 to get the attention of this corner of 2259 01:33:57,370 --> 01:33:54,530 the sky to either show them that they're 2260 01:34:00,490 --> 01:33:57,380 still here or that they have control and 2261 01:34:02,740 --> 01:34:00,500 they want to go home who knows and I'm 2262 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:02,750 sorry flat-earthers who are clearly 2263 01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:04,250 going to comment about how this is just 2264 01:34:09,610 --> 01:34:06,890 another THC Schell episode trying to 2265 01:34:12,340 --> 01:34:09,620 convince you that space is real but this 2266 01:34:13,690 --> 01:34:12,350 is what the connections look like if you 2267 01:34:16,660 --> 01:34:13,700 want to keep this all in a flat earth 2268 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:16,670 paradigm you can the constellation of 2269 01:34:20,730 --> 01:34:18,010 Lyra form 2270 01:34:23,490 --> 01:34:20,740 a rectangle what else is a rectangle a 2271 01:34:25,380 --> 01:34:23,500 door maybe Lyra is the door in the dome 2272 01:34:27,930 --> 01:34:25,390 because the celestial sphere is always 2273 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:27,940 moving only if you time it all right can 2274 01:34:30,150 --> 01:34:29,530 you burst through to the higher plane of 2275 01:34:33,150 --> 01:34:30,160 the angels 2276 01:34:34,710 --> 01:34:33,160 in fact scratch everything that I've 2277 01:34:37,739 --> 01:34:34,720 said this is basically Flat Earth 2278 01:34:39,899 --> 01:34:37,749 confirmation now that I think about it 2279 01:34:43,319 --> 01:34:39,909 but then you can tie an how it relates 2280 01:34:46,319 --> 01:34:43,329 to surveillance and hybrids and DNA and 2281 01:34:50,369 --> 01:34:46,329 that's what the abduction motif was all 2282 01:34:53,729 --> 01:34:50,379 about through the 80s and 90s in the 70s 2283 01:34:57,169 --> 01:34:53,739 and the 60s but then you have a few 2284 01:34:59,639 --> 01:34:57,179 decades after those peak abduction years 2285 01:35:02,369 --> 01:34:59,649 we have all this being way more 2286 01:35:05,249 --> 01:35:02,379 mainstream and out in the open with 2287 01:35:08,819 --> 01:35:05,259 CRISPR and smartphones and data 2288 01:35:10,739 --> 01:35:08,829 surveillance I would not be so full of 2289 01:35:13,289 --> 01:35:10,749 myself as to think that I will ever 2290 01:35:15,329 --> 01:35:13,299 solve this puzzle completely but I 2291 01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:15,339 really love looking at the pieces and 2292 01:35:20,729 --> 01:35:18,489 just like a really hard actual puzzle 2293 01:35:22,739 --> 01:35:20,739 just to get a chunk of five pieces that 2294 01:35:24,869 --> 01:35:22,749 fit together can be very exciting even 2295 01:35:28,169 --> 01:35:24,879 if the full picture is still completely 2296 01:35:29,909 --> 01:35:28,179 unsolvable but try to break anyone into 2297 01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:29,919 this sort of stuff and you'll see why 2298 01:35:34,619 --> 01:35:32,409 guys like Sir Francis Bacon only leave 2299 01:35:37,379 --> 01:35:34,629 bread crumbs because this just isn't for 2300 01:35:38,849 --> 01:35:37,389 everyone I was having a good time at the 2301 01:35:41,279 --> 01:35:38,859 bar the other day and I made some 2302 01:35:42,689 --> 01:35:41,289 comment about astrological cycles and 2303 01:35:44,429 --> 01:35:42,699 someone was like what do you mean you 2304 01:35:46,020 --> 01:35:44,439 think astrology is real how is that 2305 01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:46,030 possible 2306 01:35:50,390 --> 01:35:49,570 and what can you say except you know 2307 01:35:53,610 --> 01:35:50,400 what man 2308 01:35:55,410 --> 01:35:53,620 don't worry about it cuz I'm not gonna 2309 01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:55,420 be able to break it all down in a 2310 01:35:59,670 --> 01:35:57,730 crowded bar in between commercial breaks 2311 01:36:02,970 --> 01:35:59,680 of some stupid football game you're all 2312 01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:02,980 glued to and I don't even want to I'm 2313 01:36:08,610 --> 01:36:05,110 satisfied with my own knowledge 2314 01:36:12,090 --> 01:36:08,620 I'm definitely satisfied having a large 2315 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:12,100 group of audience members slash friends 2316 01:36:16,740 --> 01:36:13,930 that do feel the same way I don't need 2317 01:36:19,500 --> 01:36:16,750 my meatspace friends to give a [\h__\h] 2318 01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:19,510 anymore plus sometimes it's like 2319 01:36:23,820 --> 01:36:21,640 describing a drug trip to someone who's 2320 01:36:26,610 --> 01:36:23,830 never left sober reality or trying to 2321 01:36:28,740 --> 01:36:26,620 explain purple to a blind guy I don't 2322 01:36:32,370 --> 01:36:28,750 even have the language to do a justice 2323 01:36:35,460 --> 01:36:32,380 sometimes there's just something to it 2324 01:36:38,340 --> 01:36:35,470 and with that said big thanks to Chris 2325 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:38,350 for always bringing the heat if you only 2326 01:36:43,140 --> 01:36:40,570 heard the first hour in the plush show 2327 01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:43,150 we talked about things like speculations 2328 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:45,190 on where we could see examples of 2329 01:36:50,490 --> 01:36:47,770 hybrids and clones in our culture the 2330 01:36:53,450 --> 01:36:50,500 lion air crash and AI messing with the 2331 01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:53,460 timelines bringing back the old ones 2332 01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:56,110 annihilation and the shimmer and of 2333 01:37:00,330 --> 01:36:58,210 course the new Celine Dion gender 2334 01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:00,340 neutral and deeply esoteric clothing 2335 01:37:05,550 --> 01:37:03,280 line for babies which is all I want for 2336 01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:05,560 Christmas and of course for you to treat 2337 01:37:09,570 --> 01:37:07,360 yourself to the second half of a show 2338 01:37:12,050 --> 01:37:09,580 that you clearly enjoy eight dollars 2339 01:37:14,610 --> 01:37:12,060 it's less than ten it's less than nine 2340 01:37:17,070 --> 01:37:14,620 it's less than the cost to park in most 2341 01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:17,080 downtown areas on a weekend less than a 2342 01:37:21,650 --> 01:37:19,450 cocktail and said downtown areas and 2343 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:21,660 it's more valuable than both 2344 01:37:26,700 --> 01:37:22,810 yadda-yadda-yadda 2345 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:26,710 I hope secret Sun blogspot.com 2346 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:29,650 is on your daily or weekly reading list 2347 01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:31,930 I hope that you can shoot Chrissa thank 2348 01:37:36,330 --> 01:37:33,850 you tweet just so he knows he's not 2349 01:37:37,740 --> 01:37:36,340 wasting his time with me and I'll see 2350 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:37,750 you in just a couple of days with a 2351 01:37:42,210 --> 01:37:40,810 medical show aimed at the ladies to 2352 01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:42,220 counterbalance the one we just did for 2353 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:44,800 the guys and then we will end a year 2354 01:37:48,570 --> 01:37:47,290 with a classic guest return and a little 2355 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:48,580 something I'm putting together called 2356 01:37:56,340 --> 01:37:51,970 the higher side holiday special it is a 2357 01:37:59,439 --> 01:37:56,350 plus thing do not groan at me I am glad 2358 01:38:03,070 --> 01:37:59,449 a lot of people like the free show but 2359 01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:03,080 Oh my whole life to the plus people and 2360 01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:05,090 I want to throw another log on the Thank 2361 01:38:08,169 --> 01:38:07,489 You fire and I hope you enjoy the 2362 01:38:10,540 --> 01:38:08,179 holidays 2363 01:38:12,790 --> 01:38:10,550 say hi to Jesus for me I'm out of here 2364 01:38:16,260 --> 01:38:12,800 your move space Sorcerer's code 2365 01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:16,270 concealers and elite liaisons to the 2366 01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:21,440 librarians you're buckin welcome this 2367 01:38:33,780 --> 01:38:27,110 morning with light in my eyes and then 2368 01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:37,040 it was a lie 2369 01:38:46,210 --> 01:38:48,770 you 2370 01:38:59,060 --> 01:38:53,510 must be those strangers that come every 2371 01:39:04,029 --> 01:38:59,070 night who's a saucer-shaped light but 2372 01:39:09,009 --> 01:39:08,169 blue-green footprints that glow in the 2373 01:39:13,700 --> 01:39:09,019 dark 2374 01:39:19,629 --> 01:39:13,710 I hope make it home 2375 01:39:26,890 --> 01:39:25,819 mr. spaceman won't you please take me 2376 01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:26,900 along 2377 01:39:44,260 --> 01:39:40,320 mr. spaceman won't you please take me 2378 01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:47,419 [Music] 2379 01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:50,400 this morning 2380 01:39:58,020 --> 01:39:54,410 feeling quite weird I had it 2381 01:40:04,320 --> 01:39:58,030 it's in my beer my tooth pain 2382 01:40:13,250 --> 01:40:09,660 written my name so long 2383 01:40:13,260 --> 01:40:17,390 [Music] 2384 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:21,290 mr. space 2385 01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:24,070 won't you please take me 2386 01:40:35,819 --> 01:40:31,530 I won't do anything wrong Hey 2387 01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:35,829 [Music] 2388 01:40:43,970 --> 01:40:46,460 Hey 2389 01:40:56,460 --> 01:40:49,580 this face man 2390 01:41:08,670 --> 01:41:04,020 [Music] 2391 01:41:11,239 --> 01:41:08,680 why don't you please take me along the 2392 01:41:23,690 --> 01:41:11,249 high side